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UK MOD explanation for black triangle UFO's

  1. Sep 20, 2010 #1
    UK Ministry of Defense Report Findings

    "The UK Ministry of Defense report "UAP in the UK Air Defence Region[2] released to the public in 2006 draws several conclusions as to the origin of "Black Triangle" UFO sightings. Their researchers conclude that "Black Triangle" UFOs are formations of electrical plasma, the interaction of which creates mysterious energy fields that both refract light and produce hallucinations in witnesses that are in close proximity.
    The report states: "Occasionally and perhaps exceptionally, it seems that a field with, as yet, undetermined characteristics, can exist between certain charged buoyant objects in loose formation, such that, depending on the viewing aspect, the intervening space between them forms an area (viewed as a shape, often triangular) from which the reflection of light does not occur. This is a key finding in the attribution of what have frequently been reported as black 'craft,' often triangular and even up to hundreds of feet in length." These plasma formations also have the effect through "magnetic, electric or electromagnetic (or even unknown field), appears to emanate from some of the buoyant charged masses. Local fields of this type have been medically proven to cause responses in the temporal lobes of the human brain. These result in the observer sustaining his or her own vivid, but mainly incorrect, description of what is experienced. This is suggested to be a key factor in influencing the more extreme reports found in the media and are clearly believed by the 'victims.'[3]"


    It sounds kind of pseudo-scientific. Any thoughts about it?
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  3. Sep 20, 2010 #2

    Ivan Seeking

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    In order to be considered here, the suggested explanation would need to be published in a regular journal. This sounds more like wild speculation than a well-supported hypothesis.

    I would bet that if anything, this was merely suggested as one possible explanation. Can anyone find the reference in the MOD documents linked?
  4. Sep 21, 2010 #3
    I looked, and cannot find them... I have to say this explanation sounds very odd given my understanding of plasma. In fact, I think an experimental aircraft would be LESS odd than giant charged plasmas at atmospheric temps, which are stable for that long.
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  6. Sep 21, 2010 #5


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    Agree with both. Maybe not literally pigeons, but something similar. Lots of talk about cargo planes and how the reports have increased with the increase of military cargo shipments.

    The summary does have a few omissions (which is always neat to find in declassified documents), but to be clear:

    The Wikipedia posting is from "volume 2, paper 18" and expresses an incredibly unlikely explanation; many others are covered much more in depth.

    It seems that the Wikipedia editor has selectively chosen his citation in this case. This was only given as a possible explanation if one "chose to actively disregard more likely explanations" (page 11 of the executive summary).
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  7. Sep 22, 2010 #6
    They can't possibly be serious... Is this report authentic? I can't imagine any rational government putting forth this sort of "explanation."
  8. Sep 22, 2010 #7
    No kidding, in fact "aliens" is less absurd... I'd like to see an original of that report before I buy a word of THAT.
  9. Sep 23, 2010 #8


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    Original reports were provided. I've read a few. I will reiterate from my earlier quote:

    There's document after document of other explanations, but this one is only mentioned briefly in the executive summary and in one other location (that I could find).

    Full disclosure: I did not read every single document available. There are... a lot.
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