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JasonRox

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I don't know what it's like elsewhere, but like almost every night is party night at my school.

I don't go out every night, but like atleast once a week but usually twice a week. I can easily make it 5 times a week if I wanted. That's just crazy. Not many people do it, but the bars are packed with students just about every night.

I might go out tomorrow night even though I have class Friday morning. I probably won't go out Friday night though and definitely not on Saturday (working). I did go out last night, so that's already 2 times this week. If I do go out Friday (I'd like to), that's 3 times.

I plan on going on out consistently during my Master's too. If that's not possible, I'll just drop out. It's not that I value social life over school or anything. It's just that I don't want anything to take over my life in one area. I need the balance or I'm not happy. Therefore, if the balance is not possible, I'll stop whichever is causing the most problems.

And my summer is suppose to be like one giant vacation. I'm moving for 3 months to another area.

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TFM

AhmedEzz,

I will give you the probably the best piece of advice you'll get:

"Be Yourself"

I go to university. I don't drink/smoke, go out etc.

I still have friends,and I still enjoy myself.

Don't get persuaded into doing something because they tell you to, or just because it appears everyone else is doing it - this is 'peer pressure', and will only get you into trouble.

TFM

Eidt:

I also find thoses who go out all night normally end up not coming in the next morning, and miss all the work/lectures.

AhmedEzz

Thnx man, thanks to all of you...I think i'm now more comfortable with that aspect of going to an overseas uni. Then there is the financial aspect where the uni tries to rip you for being an international student :rofl:

cristo

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Then there is the financial aspect where the uni tries to rip you for being an international student :rofl:
Yes, but then this makes sense. International students have not paid any tax, and probably will not pay any tax in future. Universities are subsidised by the government, which obtains its money from tax. Thus, is it right to allow international students to come to a university and pay exactly the same as the domestic students? No, of course not.

JasonRox

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Yes, but then this makes sense. International students have not paid any tax, and probably will not pay any tax in future. Universities are subsidised by the government, which obtains its money from tax. Thus, is it right to allow international students to come to a university and pay exactly the same as the domestic students? No, of course not.
It makes complete sense that international students get charged more.

I'm from Canada, and if I go to a different province in my country my tuition can double! That's staying within my own country. Education is funded provincially, so it makes complete sense.

Schrodinger's Dog

Believe it or not not all students are drunkards, some are even teetotal. And universities have a myriad of societies that don't revolve around getting drunk. Unless you're a bit of a wallflower I'm sure you'll find people there with similar interests. Although University is supposed to be a time of study it's also a time to let your hair down, formal education is long gone so some people go a bit well OTT.

oedipa maas

I'm from Canada, and if I go to a different province in my country my tuition can double! That's staying within my own country. Education is funded provincially, so it makes complete sense.
Well, that's only true if you're from Quebec and you go outside the province for your education. I'd guess that 90% of undergraduate programs in Canada have tuition fees that are within 800 CA$of the national mean tuition. OrbitalPower I find this thread rather funny considering that I don't smoke, do drugs, and I've never had a drop of alcohol in my life -- well, maybe besides Nyquil. I go to University, though, here the states (which is even more prone to parties), in an engineering field, and find there are a lot of people who don't drink. Also, here in the states, at least, people who are anti-smoking are often considered Liberals. How things have changed. :) AhmedEzz this is the good world that I hope to live in. But guys charging 12,500 sterling which is 600% or more than what the regular students pay, is kinda rip off. Kurdt Staff Emeritus Science Advisor Gold Member I paid about about £3000 a year for my fees. so its not much more. Quite often your own government will cover part of the cost of tuition. I know of a few overseas students who had all their fees paid. Might be worth looking to see if your government has something similar. AhmedEzz I can afford the cost but I think its a bit too much, is 60% in the UK considered a good grade? ~B? cristo Staff Emeritus Science Advisor this is the good world that I hope to live in. But guys charging 12,500 sterling which is 600% or more than what the regular students pay, is kinda rip off. You're comparing things that are not comparable. The £3000 or so that home students pay is not "full fees" since, like I said, the government gives the university money. If the government were not funding the education then it would be a lot more expensive for everyone! I can afford the cost but I think its a bit too much, is 60% in the UK considered a good grade? ~B? 60% is a borderline 2:1 degree, which is considered to be good, yes. Anything about 70% is a first class degree, which is the best that one can obtain. JasonRox Homework Helper Gold Member Well, that's only true if you're from Quebec and you go outside the province for your education. I'd guess that 90% of undergraduate programs in Canada have tuition fees that are within 800 CA$ of the national mean tuition.
Check again man.

You got it wrong.

JasonRox

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this is the good world that I hope to live in. But guys charging 12,500 sterling which is 600% or more than what the regular students pay, is kinda rip off.
Ignorance won't get you very far.

Do your research about how schools are funded and add common sense, and you'll see that they're not ripping you off.

AhmedEzz

hmm, maybe i'm wrong...education here is alot cheaper and don't tell me how it sucks in Egypt and how its incomparable cuz I already know, lol

physicscrap

I guess it all depends how you are brought up. I myself went to a university and let myself go. As in drinking WAY too much and partying a lot. I was raised next to these type of kids so naturally I took that path. I dropped out after my first year.

Just because you go out and enjoy yourself doesn't mean you are an idiot. You just need to control yourself and know how to have a good time without over doing it. Ah what the heck am I posting this for? lol

oedipa maas

Check again man.

You got it wrong.
No, I'm actually pretty close to being bang-on.... If you exclude Quebec (where in-province students pay 1900 CA$/year in tuition) then 89% of students in Canada pay within$800 of the mean ($4940 is the mean tuition for students outside Quebec). Canadian average: 4,214 (1,047,700 students) http://www.simoka.com/tuition-fees.html university enrolments (http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2008/02/07/university-enrolment.html [Broken]) province $$# of students NFLD 2,606 18,300 PEI 4,645 3,800 NS 6,281 43,300 NB 5,037 25,000 QC 1,900 (tuition for in-province students only) 266,000 ON 4,881 431,000 MB 3,272 39,700 SK 5,062 33,000 AB 5,125 91,700 BC 4,874 108,200 Last edited by a moderator: JasonRox Homework Helper Gold Member No, I'm actually pretty close to being bang-on.... If you exclude Quebec (where in-province students pay 1900 CA/year in tuition) then 89% of students in Canada pay within 800 of the mean (4940 is the mean tuition for students outside Quebec). Canadian average: 4,214 (1,047,700 students) http://www.simoka.com/tuition-fees.html university enrolments (http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2008/02/07/university-enrolment.html [Broken]) province$$$ # of students
NFLD 2,606 18,300
PEI 4,645 3,800
NS 6,281 43,300
NB 5,037 25,000
QC 1,900 (tuition for in-province students only) 266,000
ON 4,881 431,000
MB 3,272 39,700
SK 5,062 33,000
AB 5,125 91,700
BC 4,874 108,200
I'm talking about out-of-province students. If I go to BC (from Ontario), I will pay more than a BC citizen. That's what I have been saying.

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oedipa maas

I'm talking about out-of-province students. If I go to BC (from Ontario), I will pay more than a BC citizen. That's what I have been saying.
No, only Quebec has different tuition for out-of-province students. If a resident of Ontario goes to BC for university he or she pays the same tuition as a student who is a BC resident.

JasonRox

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No, only Quebec has different tuition for out-of-province students. If a resident of Ontario goes to BC for university he or she pays the same tuition as a student who is a BC resident.
You're right!

That makes no sense!

How does the funding work in this case?

Tom Mattson

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...I'm speechless but I assure you, that this is the third time in my life that I got that word, the first time was nine years ago.

but thanks really...thanks alot
You'd probably hear it more often if you lived in a more relaxed culture. Just the other day some girl said my best friend was cute, and he's WAY uglier than you. :rofl:

oedipa maas

You're right!

That makes no sense!

How does the funding work in this case?
Well, I imagine that the number of students going out-of-province for their education is almost equal to the number of students coming in from other provinces. If I was going to bet, I'd say that BC, Ontario and Nova Scotia are gaining more students than they're losing. But I am too lazy to look up the statistics on that subject.

AhmedEzz: sorry for borrowing your thread for this debate. I think going abroad for your education would be a great experience. There is a lot of variety in university life and you'll find a few niches. I've been an expat for two years and there are always a few surprises adjusting to the local way of doing things (food, bureacracy, what students wear to class, what gets printed in the student newspaper....)

Last year I worked with a fun guy from Jordan who is Muslim. He always came to department get-togethers (very casual beer & bbq events). Of course, he didn't drink alcohol or eat (pork) sausages but that didn't interfere with having a good time chatting and hanging out. There were other foreign students who never attended these events (even though everyone was explicitly invited) and I always felt sorry that they didn't feel welcome or didn't feel that their attendance would be worthwhile. I don't think that it's always made clear to foreign students that the social part of going to school/working at a university is as much part of the experience as study and research.