Uniform Circular Motion, Find the Tension

In summary, the problem involves a father spinning his child on a cart at the summit of a conical hill. The rope length, mass of the child and cart, and hill grade are given. The goal is to find the tension in the rope that will allow the cart to spin at a specific angular velocity. The solution involves drawing a free body diagram, defining a coordinate system, and summing the forces in the x-axis. After isolating the tension, the centripetal acceleration is found and substituted into the equation for tension. The correct value of tension is found by plugging in known values and solving. The final solution is T = 280 N.
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1. Homework Statement

Question: An energetic father stands at the summit of a conical hill as he spins his 25 kg child around on a 5.7 kg cart with a 2.3-m-long rope.
The sides of the hill are inclined at 22∘.
He keeps the rope parallel to the ground, and friction is negligible.
What rope tension will allow the cart to spin with the 16 rpm

Homework Equations


My variables and constants:
Child Mass = mchild = 25 kg
Cart Mass = mcart = 5.7 kg
Rope Length = L = 2.3 m
Radius = r = Lcos(22∘) = 2.3 m
Hill Grade = θ = 22∘
Angular Velocity = ω = 16 rpm = 1.67551608 rad/s
Tension = T
Total Mass = m = mchild + mcart
Centripetal Acceleration = ac
g = 9.8 m/s2
Weight = w = mg

The Attempt at a Solution


a) I drew a free body diagram with
1) Tension pointing North-West (up the slope and parallel to the surface)
2) Normal Force pointing North-East (perpendicular to the surface)
3) Weight pointing down
b) I defined my coordinate system as:
1) Positive x is up the slope and parallel to the surface
2) Positive y is parallel with the Normal Force and perpendicular to the surface (pointing away from the ground, into the sky)
hillcart.PNG

c) I summed the forces in the x axis:
Fx: mac*cos(θ) = T - mg*sin(θ)
d) I isolated Tension:
T = mac*cos(θ) + mg*sin(θ)
e) I found ac:
ac = ω2r
f) I substituted ac into my equation from (d):
T = mω2r*cos(θ) + mg*sin(θ)
!) T = mω2(L*cos(θ))*cos(θ) + mg*sin(θ)
g) I plugged in known values:
T = (25 kg + 5.7 kg)(1.67551608 rad/s)2(2.3 m) + (25 kg + 5.7 kg)(9.8 m/s2)*sin(22∘)
T = (25 kg + 5.7 kg)(1.67551608 rad/s)2((2.3 m)*cos(22∘))*cos(22∘) + (25 kg + 5.7 kg)(9.8 m/s2)*sin(22∘)

h) I computed Tension as T = 310.928 N = 310 N
T = 283.111 N = 280 N


4. A note
310 N is not the correct answer, nor is 310.928 N. Also I do not know what the correct answer is...
I was wondering if someone could help me figure out what it is that I am doing incorrectly?

I really appreciate the help, thanks in advance!
Thank you so much for helping me with this problem @TSny! :smile:
 

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It would be helpful if you could post a diagram.
Hoophy said:
c) I summed the forces in the x axis:
Fx: mac = T - mg*sin(θ)

Does the cart move on a horizontal circle? If so, would the centripetal acceleration be parallel to your x-axis which is along the slope?
 
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TSny said:
It would be helpful if you could post a diagram.Does the cart move on a horizontal circle? If so, would the centripetal acceleration be parallel to your x-axis which is along the slope?
I have edited my post to include a drawing.

I see...
So would I need to do:
Fx: maccos(θ) = T - mg*sin(θ) ?
Thanks. :smile:
 
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Hoophy said:
I have edited my post to include a drawing.

I see...
So would I need to do:
Fx: maccos(θ) = T - mg*sin(θ) ?
Thanks. :smile:
Yes. Looks good.

Does r equal the length of the rope?
 
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Yes. Looks good.

Does r equal the length of the rope?
Would I be able to replace all previous instances of "r" with (Rope_Length)cos(θ) ?
 
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Hoophy said:
Would I be able to replace all previous instances of "r" with (Rope_Length)cos(θ) ?
Sounds right
 
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It may help if you consider the components of the tension. All of the tension in the rope does not account for the centripetal acceleration.
One component of the tension counters the weight, which in turn could affect the normal force. What new set of equations would you end up with if you introduce components of the tension?
 
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TSny said:
Sounds right
That did the trick, thank you so much for all of your help!

I have amended my post with the correct process in case anyone with a similar question stumbles upon this thread.
 
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Hoophy said:
That did the trick, thank you so much for all of your help!

I have amended my post with the correct process in case anyone with a similar question stumbles upon this thread.
Good work
 
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1. What is uniform circular motion?

Uniform circular motion refers to the movement of an object in a circular path at a constant speed, meaning the object covers equal distances in equal time intervals.

2. How is the tension calculated in uniform circular motion?

The tension in a string or rope is calculated by using the equation T = mv2/r, where T is the tension, m is the mass of the object, v is the velocity, and r is the radius of the circular motion.

3. What factors affect the tension in uniform circular motion?

The tension in uniform circular motion is affected by the mass of the object, the velocity of the object, and the radius of the circular path. An increase in any of these factors will result in an increase in tension, while a decrease will result in a decrease in tension.

4. Can the tension ever be zero in uniform circular motion?

No, the tension in uniform circular motion can never be zero. This is because the object is constantly changing direction, which requires a force to keep it moving in a circular path. In order to have a force, there must be tension in the string or rope.

5. How does the direction of the tension in uniform circular motion change?

The direction of the tension in uniform circular motion is always directed towards the center of the circular path. As the object moves around the circle, the direction of the tension changes in order to keep the object moving in a circular path.

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