Uniform motion problem

1. Feb 1, 2009

Raizy

1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

A ferry leaves a dock and travels to an island at an average speed of 16 mph. On the return trip, the ferry travels at an average speed of 12 mph. The total time for the trip is 2 and 1/3 hours.

How far is the island from the dock?

3. The attempt at a solution

Attempt 1:

d = distance

(7/3 * 16) - (7/3 * 12 ) = d
112/3 - 84/3 = d
28/3 = d
d = 9.333...

Attempt 2:

t = time of second trip

16 * (2 and 1/3 - t)= 12t
37 and 1/3 - 16t = 12t
37 and 1/3 = (12 + 16)t
112/3 = 38t
1/38 * 38/1t = 1/38 * 112/3
t = 112/114
t = 56/57

If I use 56/57 I get 21.61 mi and 11.79 mi. lol.

The book's answer is 16 miles.

Any takers?

2. Feb 1, 2009

hage567

Well since you know the total time for the trip, try starting with this idea

t1 + t2 = ttotal

You can easily express t1 and t2 in other variables.

3. Feb 1, 2009

Delphi51

It is motion at constant speed, so you use d = vt for each part of the trip.
You know that the time for the first part plus the time for the second part is 2.33 hr, so it makes sense to solve the formula for t = d/v.

1st time + second time = 2.33 hr
d/v1 + d/v2 = 2.33
You'll have to factor the d out to solve for it.

4. Feb 1, 2009

Raizy

Holy crap my clumsy ***'s attempt 2 approach was right all along.

Damn, I must be so wrong always forgetting to double check my equations.

t = time of second trip

16 * (2 and 1/3 - t)= 12t
37 and 1/3 - 16t = 12t
37 and 1/3 = (12 + 16)t
112/3 = 38t It's supposed to be 28t !!! *sigh*
1/38 * 38/1t = 1/38 * 112/3
t = 112/114
t = 56/57

After plugging in t = 1.33 to calculate distance it's pretty close to 16 mi.

5. Feb 1, 2009

Delphi51

I can't follow your work! Aren't you supposed to write a formula, then sub the numbers in and solve for the unknown? It turns out that answers alone are worth nothing in the marketplace - rather, you have to present a solution that convinces your employers that you know what you are talking about before they will take note of your answer!

1st time + second time = 2.33 hr
d/v1 + d/v2 = 2.33
You'll have to factor the d out to solve for it.
d/16 + d/12 = 2.33
d(1/16 + 1/12) = 2.33
Run that bracket through your calculator to get a number for it.
Divide both sides by that number to get a d = answer.