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United States vs Italy

  1. Jun 17, 2006 #1

    Astronuc

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    Well, the US has to win. :uhh: :rolleyes:

    This could be auf wiedersehen for Americans

    By RONALD BLUM, AP Sports Writer
    June 17, 2006

    http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slug=ap-wcup-italy-us
     
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  3. Jun 17, 2006 #2

    DM

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    I'm expecting Italy to win by a minimum of 2:0
     
  4. Jun 17, 2006 #3

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    Wait, do they, really?

    Suppose they tie this one and beat Ghana in the next one, while Italy beats the Czechs, then USA and Italy go through, no?
     
  5. Jun 17, 2006 #4

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    I suspect the article was written before the outcome of the Ghana-Czech match.

    Frankly, I don't see the US tieing or winning, unless the Italians get really cocky and screw up. But then again look at what happened with the Czechs.
     
  6. Jun 17, 2006 #5

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    It's possible.
     
  7. Jun 17, 2006 #6

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    Well, the US have been taught a lesson.

    The question is : "Have they learned it?"
     
  8. Jun 17, 2006 #7

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    1-1 at half and 10 on 10
     
  9. Jun 17, 2006 #8
    Hah...well so far, Italy scored 2 goals. Score: 1-1

    PS. That second red card was unbelievable.
     
  10. Jun 17, 2006 #9
    Why did Mastoroeani (or something like that) get a red card?
     
  11. Jun 17, 2006 #10

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    This referee sucks.
     
  12. Jun 17, 2006 #11
    wow! I just turned on my tv, and this match is in television, it's hard to believe but it is!
     
  13. Jun 17, 2006 #12
    Oooh!. the shot by Zambrotta shaved the post. USA is holding up, though
     
  14. Jun 17, 2006 #13
    This is a crazy match. I don't think the referee sucks, however he has to make alot of difficult decisions. He missed an obvious penalty kick though (Nesta used his hand). Regarding the US team, the swedish television commentators call their efforts heroic.
     
  15. Jun 17, 2006 #14
    Spiderman Keller parried the ball in an acrobatic fly
     
  16. Jun 17, 2006 #15
    Was it a diliberate use of his hand or did it just rebound off it with no conscious choice of the player?

    If the the former it is a free kick, or penalty if the infraction happened inside the box, if the later then it is usally waved off as an unintentional breach of the rules.
     
  17. Jun 17, 2006 #16
    1:1 for USA, lost a bet
     
  18. Jun 17, 2006 #17

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    Well now US has to beat Ghana and have Italy beat Czech
     
  19. Jun 17, 2006 #18
    I know the odds are stacked against them, but technically, is there a way the US can win the world cup, or did they have to win this game?
     
  20. Jun 17, 2006 #19
    It is difficult to know if it was a conscious choice or not, it wasn't however obviously unintentional. I would have to see the situation again to be sure.
     
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  21. Jun 17, 2006 #20

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    Top 2 teams from each group move on to the next round.

    As of right now, here are the standings in Group E: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_FIFA_World_Cup#Group_E

    You can see that if US wins its next game it will finish with 4 points and Ghana will finish with 3.

    That leaves Italy with 4 and Czech with 3 prior to their game. If Italy wins that game then it finishes with 7 and US and Italy move on with 4 and 7 points respectively leaving Ghana and Czech with 3 points each.

    If Czech wins then it will move on with 6 points, leaving US and Italy with a tie with 4 points (and Ghana knocked out). The tie is resolved by the following:

    Seeing as how the goal difference for US is now -3 and +2 for Italy, it's unlikely that the US would win that tie. That would involve, for example, the US winning by 3 goals and Italy losing by 2 goals(US would move on since it has more goals total). If the US wins by 2 goals and Italy loses by 3 goals then they would have the same goal differential but they would have the same number of goals scored, and they tied their match 1-1, so I guess they draw lots then.

    Italy and Czech could also tie, leaving Czech with 4 points to tie US. In that case it's still unlikely for US to move on considering they would have to win by 4 goals to match Czech's goal differential.
     
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