# Homework Help: Upper Bounds Integration

1. Apr 25, 2008

### tmclary

[SOLVED] Upper Bounds Integration

1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
Integrate y=4x from 2 to 5 using the limit with circumscribed rectangles.

2. Relevant equations

A=lim(n to inf.) Summation of f(xsubi) times delta (xsubi)

3. The attempt at a solution

A=lim(4/n)(4/n)(4)(2+3+4+......+(n+1))
=64/n^2((n^2+3n)/2))= 32lim((n+3)/n)) =32. But from integration the answer is obviously 48. What am I doing wrong? (Sorry about lack of typo skills-newbie)

2. Apr 25, 2008

### sutupidmath

why do you think the answer is obviously 48?

3. Apr 25, 2008

### sutupidmath

well i got 42 as my answer, either by directly integrating

$$\int_2^5 4xdx$$ and also by using Rieman sums.

I'll try to post my work, on my next post.

4. Apr 25, 2008

### tmclary

Sorry-wrong limits!

Sorry! The limits were 1 to 5, not 2 to 5!

5. Apr 25, 2008

### sutupidmath

we want to calculate

$$\lim_{n\to\infty}\sum_{i=1}^{n}f(\epsilon_i)\delta x_i$$

now let us create n mini segments on the segment [2,5]

that is let the points be

$$x_0=2,x_1,x_2,......x_i_-_1,x_i,....,x_n=5$$

Now our concern is to determine what our function will be.
First let's notice certian facts:

$$\delta x_i=x_i-x_i_-_1$$ also let $$\epsilon_i=x_i$$

this way we have:

$$\epsilon_i=\delta x_i+x_i_-_1$$

also: $$\delta x_i=\frac{5-2}{n}=\frac{3}{n}$$

Now, for to determine our function lets try some values for i=1,2,3,...

$$f(x_1)=4\left(\frac{3}{n}+2\right),f(x_2)=4(\frac{6}{n}+2),f(x_3)=4(\frac{9}{n}+2),......, f(x_i)=4(\frac{3i}{n}+2)$$

Hence:

$$\int_2^54xdx=\lim_{n\to\infty}\sum_{i=1}^{n}4\left(\frac{3i}{n}+2\right)\frac{3}{n}=...=42$$

Last edited: Apr 25, 2008
6. Apr 25, 2008

### sutupidmath

Well, then do the same thing as i did here, just take into consideration that you have the lower limit 1, in this case. I am not gonna troube to go the same route again, i think you can do it now. If you can't ask again.

cheers!

7. Apr 25, 2008

### sutupidmath

Well it doesn't change a lot by the way, the difference is that now you'll have

$$\delta x_i=\frac{4}{n}$$ and

$$f(x_i)=4\left(\frac{4i}{n}+1\right)$$

and the answer will be 48.

8. Apr 25, 2008

### tmclary

Thanks very much for your replies- I'm still stuck expanding the summation- will attempt another query when I have time, and can clarify.

9. Apr 25, 2008