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Urgent Please help, drag on projectile in motion

  1. Dec 16, 2014 #1
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    http://scholarcommons.usf.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4836&context=ujmm

    Ive been awake for thirty six hours and I don't know differential equations.

    Im trying to find the angle (theta) over the horizontal axis that is needed to hit a target that is 1000 meters away
    they are basically identical problems. I don't understand how to find initial velocity in the x and y components if I dont have an angle. Is there a final formula I can plug and chug to find theta?

    I am working on a problem for my calculus that is exactly like this, but I cant figure out how she arrived to her answer my grade depends heavily on this.
     
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    You've given us one problem. What's the other?
     
  4. Dec 16, 2014 #3
    If you have the magnitude of initial velocity in which it should be project you can solve this..
     
  5. Dec 16, 2014 #4
    Lets just say that the velocity was 820 m/s at. Ignoring the fact that projectiles act differently at supersonic speeds, and accounting for a -kv^2 kind of relationship, how would I find theta?
     
  6. Dec 16, 2014 #5
    For a projectile from ground with an angle θ The horizontal range is v^2sin2θ/g... Equate this to the distant target which the projectile should hit.. You will get the value of θ .. That's it ..
     
  7. Dec 16, 2014 #6
    I don't know how to evaluate all of that is the problem
     
  8. Dec 16, 2014 #7

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    The author has set up a spreadsheet to do the calculations to solve her problem. She can input various angles and have the spreadsheet calculate the properties of the resulting trajectory. It's a simple matter of assuming an angle, checking to see if the bullet arrives at the target location, and then adjusting the angle up or down as required.

    If you read the author's write up, she initially thought the rifle would have to be fired at an angle of elevation of 30° in order to hit the target. Her calculations showed that a much smaller angle of elevation, less than half a degree, was sufficient.

    If you've been up 36 hours, get some sleep. Your brain is fried and you won't find any inspiration without getting some rest.
     
  9. Dec 16, 2014 #8
    I dont have a choice in sleeping, its due soon. The whole point of this project is to take the guesswork out of problems and show that it can be solved through the rigorous application of mathematics. That being said I guess that is the very nature of using the Euler Method
     
  10. Dec 16, 2014 #9

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    These models can be fun. No calculus needed. The idea is to calculate the forces on the bullet immediately after leaving the gun (time 0). Use your basic formulas for uniform accelerated motion to find what those forces do to the velocity and position over a small time interval. This gives you the position and velocity for the next row of your spreadsheet - so you can use the same formulas to do the next time interval. You might begin your solution by ignoring the horizontal motion and just do the vertical, as if the bullet was just dropped. Easy to check and see if the spreadsheet produces the correct answer! Have a go at the first time interval and we will be happy to check it for you.
     
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