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News US develops lethal new viruses: New Scientist

  1. Oct 31, 2003 #1

    Ivan Seeking

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    Nothing new, right? Scientists earlier, about 1-1.5 yrs ago had made smallpox from scratch, using reagents ordered from the internet biosciences companies.

    Oh, wait, these are NEW strains of viruses, thats really bad news.. but research in the field is required to gain more knowledge of what is possible, to be prepared when an enemy releases such an engineered virus. With prepared I mean not to counter launch a biological attack, but rather to quickly assess whether it is a natural virus or not and how best to treat it.
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    I just wonder, what is done with research results? Do they get published? Is it confidential and highly classified information? It doesn't seem so, in the article they even give out the recipe:


    Yeah, very smart, tell all the bioterrorist (which they are trying to outsmart) to which conferences to go and which facilities to get all the necessary information to replicate the work.. yeah, very smart..
  5. Nov 1, 2003 #4
    US Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases at Fort Detrick, Maryland and all the region seems to be a dangerous place to live.
    Also Mr. Murphy lives there, the guy from Murphy's law, remember?
  6. Nov 1, 2003 #5
    Indeed ... and tell him where to drop his plane.
    This all is like kids playing with fire ...
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    Anything that CAN go wrong WILL go wrong.. yes, I've personally verified the correctness of that statement with my experimentations.. it's right.
  8. Nov 18, 2003 #7
    hum ... an unlocked freezer :/ Murphy?

    USDA Report: Better Security Necessary at Labs
    Tue 18 November, 2003 23:37
    http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle.jhtml?type=scienceNews&storyID=3847665&section=news [Broken]

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Department of Homeland Security should establish strict security guidelines for all government-funded U.S. laboratories that conduct research on deadly viruses, bacteria and chemical agents, U.S. Agriculture Department investigators said on Tuesday.

    The USDA's Office of Inspector General said it found dozens of research labs, mostly located at public universities, that were vulnerable to theft because of lax security and incomplete record keeping.

    "Without a standard minimum level of security, there is a potential that laboratories could experience unauthorized entries and that the loss or theft of high consequence pathogens could go undetected," the report said.

    With several federal agencies providing grants to many of the same research labs, the report recommended that the Homeland Security Department create one set of security rules for institutions that handle high risk agents.

    Between July and September 2002, USDA investigators visited 104 laboratories at 11 sites and found many lacking alarm systems and surveillance cameras.

    At one institution, a science lecturer had stored seven vials of an agent that can cause pneumonic plague, an airborne pathogen that can kill all infected people within 48 hours, in an unlocked freezer. The freezer had contained other dangerous pathogens that could not be accounted for, the report said.

    The scientist said the vials were destroyed in September 2002.

    Thomas Butler, a university professor at Texas Tech University, is on trial accused of lying to federal agents about 30 missing vials of bubonic plague bacteria.

    USDA officials were not immediately available to comment on whether the two cases were the same.

    In the report, the USDA said it agreed with the recommendations. It has started discussions with the Homeland Security Department on implementing a minimum security standard.
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  9. Nov 18, 2003 #8
    Cattle Abductions

    Posted by Ivan Seeking:
    “The cowpox virus, which infects a range of animals including humans, has been genetically altered in a similar way.”

    These experiments have nothing to do with bioterrorism or the development of biological weapons of mass-destruction. Nothing. The smallpox virus is of alien origin and has long been a "puzzle" to the greatest scientists involved in the mutations of its original code. I'm a bit surprised that they have finally admitted the cowpox link to humans. Cattle/humans.
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