What is the cross product of two vectors whose result is the zero vector?

In summary, the conversation discusses the cross product of two vectors and verifies that when the cross product is zero, the vectors are parallel. It also corrects a misunderstanding about the cross product involving the cosine or sine functions and clarifies that the magnitude of the cross product can involve these functions. The conversation ends with a question about what the cross product would be, to which the response is to use the "pseudodeterminant."
  • #1
amy098yay
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Homework Statement


  1. Verify (https://ucdsb.elearningontario.ca/content/enforced/4850117-BL_1415Sem2__MAT_MCV4UU-948314_1_ELO/MCV4UPU01/MCV4UPU01A06/images/vec-a.gif?_&d2lSessionVal=Y3hirJUTSYjH76OEZwqHIBATE&ou=4850117 + https://ucdsb.elearningontario.ca/content/enforced/4850117-BL_1415Sem2__MAT_MCV4UU-948314_1_ELO/MCV4UPU01/MCV4UPU01A06/images/vec-b.gif?_&d2lSessionVal=Y3hirJUTSYjH76OEZwqHIBATE&ou=4850117) × (https://ucdsb.elearningontario.ca/content/enforced/4850117-BL_1415Sem2__MAT_MCV4UU-948314_1_ELO/MCV4UPU01/MCV4UPU01A06/images/vec-a.gif?_&d2lSessionVal=Y3hirJUTSYjH76OEZwqHIBATE&ou=4850117 + https://ucdsb.elearningontario.ca/content/enforced/4850117-BL_1415Sem2__MAT_MCV4UU-948314_1_ELO/MCV4UPU01/MCV4UPU01A06/images/vec-b.gif?_&d2lSessionVal=Y3hirJUTSYjH76OEZwqHIBATE&ou=4850117) = 0⃗ . What can be said about two vectors whose cross product is the zero vector
a x b

= i j k
3 -3 1
-12 12 -4

=
i
( (-3) · (-4) - 1 · 12 ) -
j
( 3 · (-4) - 1 · (-12) ) +
k
( 3 · 12 - (-3) · (-12) ) =
=
i
( 12 - 12 ) -
j
( (-12) - (-12) ) +
k
( 36 - 36 ) =
=
(0 ; 0 ; 0)

2. Homework Equations


have i correctly verified with an example that two vectors whose cross product is the zero vector?
 
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  • #2
You have created two vectors with zero cross product. Do you understand what can be said about two vectors whose cross product is zero?
 
  • #3
jasonleroy said:
You have created two vectors with zero cross product. Do you understand what can be said about two vectors whose cross product is zero?
They are parallel, since the cross product involves the cosine function. cos(90) = 0. The cross product is a sine function, if it is zero, the angle is zero or 180, so they are in the same or opposite directions. ?
 
  • #4
That's it, but the cross product is AB*sin(x). I'm not following what you meant by the line below, but you got the main point.

amy098yay said:
...the cross product involves the cosine function. cos(90) = 0
 
  • #5
jasonleroy said:
That's it, but the cross product is AB*sin(x).
No, that's not the cross product. What you're probably thinking of is |A| |B| |sin(θ|), which gives the magnitude of A X B.
 
  • #6
amy098yay said:
They are parallel, since the cross product involves the cosine function. cos(90) = 0.
As already pointed out by jasonleroy, the cross product does NOT involve the cosine function. The cross product also does not involve the sine function, although the magnitude of the cross product does.
amy098yay said:
The cross product is a sine function, if it is zero, the angle is zero or 180, so they are in the same or opposite directions. ?
 
  • #7
Mark44 said:
As already pointed out by jasonleroy, the cross product does NOT involve the cosine function. The cross product also does not involve the sine function, although the magnitude of the cross product does.
then what would the cross product be ?
 
  • #8
amy098yay said:
then what would the cross product be ?
Just what you already did with the "pseudodeterminant."

$$\begin{vmatrix} i & j & k \\ x_1 & x_2 & x_3 \\ y_1 & y_2 & y_3\end{vmatrix}$$
 

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