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Venus possibly habitable for billions of years: Newscientist.com

  1. Sep 9, 2003 #1

    Ivan Seeking

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    http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99994136
     
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  3. Sep 9, 2003 #2
    venus has a lot of electrical storms right? Could that spark life now
     
  4. Sep 10, 2003 #3
    Not unless theres any life that can survive 700F++ temperatures...

    More to the point, is there anything at all that could reverse Venus's runaway greenhouse effect?
     
  5. Sep 10, 2003 #4

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    I've been thinking about that, and it seems possible. You can see how that greenhouse effect has covered the Venusion sky with a white, highly reflective cloud layer, right? This cloud cover is sausing the heat to be trapped, which is, in turn, causing more carbon to be released from the rocks. But this same cloud layer is also blocking sunlight from getting in, actually keeping heat out of the system. It's just that under current conditions very little heat is needed to perpetuate the greenhouse effect. Nevertheless, some energy input is still required.

    If at some point the cloud cover becomes so thick that the amount of heat being allowed into the system is not adequate to sustain the runaway effect, temperatures could drop rather drastically (in geological terms). It would be a lot like a nuclear winter.
     
  6. Sep 11, 2003 #5
    Also the acid in the atmosphere.
     
  7. Sep 11, 2003 #6

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    Carl Sagan discussed this a bit in his book "Pale Blue Dot". In short, the answer is no....or at least not without causing a lot of havoc to the planet (e.g., bombarding it with many huge asteroids to blow off much of the atmosphere).

    I recommend reading the book...but if I find the time, I'll try to post a summary of the considerations.
     
  8. Sep 11, 2003 #7

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    Thanks for the link, Ivan. It will be interesting to see how this idea is received.
     
  9. Dec 10, 2003 #8
    forgive me for bluntness and inspit of how inteligent NASA officals are how could you parachute a prob onto venus with all that "acid and 700++" temperature i know there very resourceful i just highly doubt a material such as that exsists just thought id throw something that poped out in my mind

    Thx
     
  10. Dec 10, 2003 #9

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    I don't know about NASA, but the Russians put not one but two landers on Venus, back in the 1980s (Venera 13 and Venera 14). They used parachutes to slow their descent.

    Check out this link (and more by googling on "Venera lander"):
    http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/database/MasterCatalog?sc=1981-106D
     
  11. Dec 10, 2003 #10
    All im saying is use your brain i dont care what the government is telling ya , do you honestly think in the 80's or even now a fabric parachute could withstand that to land something in one peace just sends up red flags in my mind that maybe it isnt nearly as bad as they say
     
  12. Dec 11, 2003 #11
    I think the basic thread her was on the enigmatic features of Venus. One of my favorite mysteries.

    That article is a nice hypothesis about Venus climate and the alleged wet greenhouse, but only climate.

    Could greenhouse effect explain an almost uniform temperature on poles and equator, back side and front side of the planet of about 730K?

    There are many curious things on the surface of Venus (exceptional long thin lava flows, crab and dome volcanoes, heat cracks or grabens?) with no clear explanations.

    Then we have the rotation stop, explaned by gravity interaction between the atmosphere and the sun(Correia et al) but not sufficient enough to explain the initial stage and dependent on the emerging time of the current atmosphere.

    Working on the explanation of all the strange features with only one hypothesis.
     
  13. Dec 11, 2003 #12

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    How about if you included the facts about Venus' very curious rotation and its axial tilt.
     
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