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Vice Presidential candidates

  1. Feb 29, 2008 #1

    Ivan Seeking

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    Assuming that Obama takes it, which is looking better all the time, I am thinking that Obama-Webb would be a great combination. In fact Webb might be a great VP for either Hillary or Obama. He is strong, decisive, and a no-nonsense guy. He has a rich history with the military, and he used to be a Republican.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Webb

    Turbo, I think Webb may be just the type of guy that you had in mind in our discussion about conservatives.
     
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  3. Feb 29, 2008 #2

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    Webb might be a good VP candidate, thought I would hate to see his Senate seat vacated. There are plenty of people out there that would be attractive. I have a friend in CA that would have great appeal. His name is Ed Feldman, and he is a straight shooter and a war hero. Scroll down to page 10.

    http://www.firstcoastdoctor.com/november_2006_issue_4.pdf
     
  4. Feb 29, 2008 #3

    Ivan Seeking

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    Yay! CNN just reported that Webb is being considered.
     
  5. Feb 29, 2008 #4

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    Webb would help tip Virginia towards the Dems, but I think that Obama might be able to do that without the help. What would be a coup to end all coups will be if Obama wants and gets Hagel. And what a message that would send!
     
  6. Feb 29, 2008 #5

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    I'm not thinking of Va, I'm thinking of the military and those concerned about experience in military matters. He would also attract many independents [like me] who would like to see a conservative on the ticket.

    Hagel doesn't jump off the page for me but might given some consideration.

    Several days ago I started thinking of Webb - he really impressed me during his campaign. And I esp liked it when to his face he told Bush to shove it, in not so many words. The man means what he says!
     
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  7. Feb 29, 2008 #6

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    Webb or Hagel would be good, but I agree that getting Hagel would be something. What a message indeed.


    At this point, I just hope Obama means what he says, and is not just saying what folks want to hear.

    Personally, I need to hear substantive discussion, with an acknowledgement of the problems, and realistic solutions.
     
  8. Feb 29, 2008 #7

    Ivan Seeking

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    Why would Hagel in particular be such a coup?

    Btw, there have been nineteen debates. What has not been discussed?
     
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  9. Feb 29, 2008 #8

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    Hagel is a Republican and conservative, and a critic of the current administration. On the other hand, there are many areas where I disagree with him.

    http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/Chuck_Hagel.htm


    I'll get back with regard to the debates after a I review a couple. I've heard sections, and bits and pieces, but not a whole debate.
     
  10. Feb 29, 2008 #9

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    I'm going to be lazy and go the Wiki way. Here are some tidbits:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Hagel

    Hagel = Decorated war hero + successful entrepreneur + immensely popular senior senator + champion of veterans affairs + vocal antipartisan maverick from the Republican party, much like McCain of not so long ago. This is the only time in recent history that I'm aware of, that a cross-party ticket is remotely possible. This could tear down so many walls - it would be historic.

    And Obama has co-sponsored more bills with Hagel than with Webb (nearly as many as he shares with Ted Kennedy).

    http://thomas.loc.gov/bss/d110query.html
     
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  11. Feb 29, 2008 #10

    Ivan Seeking

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    Those would be good reasons. :biggrin:

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    and most important of all!
     
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  12. Feb 29, 2008 #11

    Ivan Seeking

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    Hillary and Obama have been struggling to identify how they differ, so at times they have gotten very specific.
     
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    I don't understand. In what way does having served in war better one's credentials? In the end, war is the business of killing - hero or not. Shouldn't political merit be the only measure to consider?
     
  14. Mar 4, 2008 #13

    Ivan Seeking

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    I don't think we want soldiers as Presidents, but we want Presidents who have access to good military minds; for one because even an innocent political mistake could lead to war. It is always important to understand the military implications of any political action or world event. And we certainly want good military people at the President's side during a time of conflict or crisis.

    In the case of Webb, he didn't just serve; he has served at the highest levels. Hagel doesn't seem to be as strong on this point. But decorated vets are generally perceived as being brave and patriotic.
     
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  15. May 12, 2008 #14

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    I'd say that on most issues Obama is definitely a liberal and Hagel is definitely a conservative. If you toss out the war, I'd find it inconceivable that Hagel would even consider the idea ..... except, when asked on several occasions, he sounded like he'd accept a cabinet position in an Obama Presidency, let alone a VP slot. It would definitely pull in some Republicans that disagree with the war.

    Sebelius of Kansas would be a more logical choice. A female conservative from the heartland, but still a Democrat. It would help defuse beating the first female candidate with a realistic shot at election and it just might give people in the heartland a reason to think they actually could have a place in the Democratic Party.
     
  16. May 12, 2008 #15

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    I'd like to see an administration in which both 'liberal' and 'conservative' perspectives represented.
     
  17. May 12, 2008 #16

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    Yes, and she has shown she can win an election in a red state.

    As for a Obama-Hagel ticket, the flip side of that is McCain-Clinton.
     
  18. May 12, 2008 #17

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    Obama-Hagel? I'd cast that vote proudly!
     
  19. May 13, 2008 #18

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    The flip side of an Obama-Hagel ticket would be McCain-Leiberman. Clinton on a Republican ticket is just a funny idea.

    In order of probability:

    1. Obama-Hagel (Hagel supposedly has no political future to worry about, so it's at least possible; Sebelius and Strickland probably rank ahead of him even if he would accept)
    2. McCain-Leiberman (nearly no possibility, especially since either Pawlenty or maybe Huckabee will be VP candidate; there are no other possibilities - on the other hand, Leiberman will be 2008's Zell Miller)
    3. Kerry-McCain (as floated in 2004 - 0 possibility; it was just something to rile up Republicans)
    4. Ron Paul-Ralph Nader
    5. Clinton-Gingrich (the nearly 0 chance of Clinton winning the nomination drop this to slightly below zero?)
    6. Obama-Limbaugh (Obama owes Limbaugh for releasing the superdelegates to vote for him)
    7. O'Reilley-Olbermann (on a third party ticket)
    8. McCain-Clinton
     
  20. May 13, 2008 #19
    I didn't like any of the Democratic candidate choices and I still don't, that's why I voted in the Republican primary this time. Both Hilary Clinton and Barack Obama are socialists. The Republican choices aren't much better save for Ron Paul and a couple others.

    If McCain is elected we will continue to see more of the same interventionist, big and powerful government, and welfare policies that have plauged us the last couple decades. There aren't any true fiscal conservatives and social liberals left but a small handful. Rebulicans have become only fiscal conservative in name. That said, the choice of candidates is apalling. The only way I will be voting is if Ron Paul is VP under McCain. Anything to give that great man some recognition the media has denied him, and give him the publicity he'll need one day to run for president again. Besides Ron Paul, are there any true pro-American politicians left, who would support the Constitution and uphold the visions of our founding fathers?

    My dream ticket:
    Ron Paul-David Duke 2008
     
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  21. May 13, 2008 #20

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    Please post a link to an authoritative source that shows this. We don't allow false claims here. Please read the guidelines.

    https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=113181

    Well, I guess there is no guessing where you stand.
     
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