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Voltage relations in a circuit

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Hi there,

I am writing up a labratory report at the moment and I am a little confused about the phase realtive to v(capacitor) relative to v(resistor). In a circuit with a capacitor and a resistor, how will the phase change when the frequency is changed?

Say from 100Hz to 1kHz to 10kHz, how will the phase of v(capacitor) change realtive to v(resistor)? Assuming the resistor is 15.91kOhms and the capacitor is 0.010microF.

Thanks, I have been trying to find some infromation on this but have been unsucessful.
 

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I suppose the capacitor and resistor are connected in series to the ac generator. In that case, the current is the same on both. What do you know about the phase between current and voltage across a resistor and phase between current and voltage across a capacitor?


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I suppose the capacitor and resistor are connected in series to the ac generator. In that case, the current is the same on both. What do you know about the phase between current and voltage across a resistor and phase between current and voltage across a capacitor?


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The current and voltage are out of phase by 90 degrees on a circuit with just a capacity. And that the voltage and current are in phase on a ciruit with just a resistor, I do believe. I am still not sure how these two react when placed in the same circuit.
 
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Perhaps see..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RC_circuit

Has equations for the phase.
From what I see there it only gives the phase relation to voltage in, unless perhaps you coukd piont it out to me.
 
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See "The magnitude of the gains across the two components are:" and "and the phase angles are"

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See "The magnitude of the gains across the two components are:" and "and the phase angles are"

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Those phase angles are relative to the voltage in though aren't they?
 
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So subtract one from the other?
 
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So subtract one from the other?
I'm pretty sure you'd actually have to add them since they are relative to voltage in, this would get the total angle between them.

Would this mean that the phase between them is 90 degrees? And I guess this would also mean that the voltage in wouldn't be 90deg out of phase as it would in a circuit with just a capacitor.

I also need to know how this relationship will change with a higher frequency.
 
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The current and voltage are out of phase by 90 degrees on a circuit with just a capacity. And that the voltage and current are in phase on a ciruit with just a resistor, I do believe. I am still not sure how these two react when placed in the same circuit.
If the same current flows through the capacitor and through the resistor, and the voltage across the resistor is in phase with the current and the voltage across the capacitor is 90° behind the same current, what is the phase of Vc with respect to VR?

You can also speak about the phase difference between the generator voltage and current, but you did not ask that.


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If the same current flows through the capacitor and through the resistor, and the voltage across the resistor is in phase with the current and the voltage across the capacitor is 90° behind the same current, what is the phase of Vc with respect to VR?

You can also speak about the phase difference between the generator voltage and current, but you did not ask that.


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Ok so it is out of phase by 90°, but how does the change when the frequency is changed? From a low frequency to one that is above the 3-d B point?
 
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Constant phase difference does not change with frequency.

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