Von Mises/Tresca Question

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In summary, Tresca and Von Mises theories are used to determine when a material will yield. If the combined stresses are less than the material's yield stress, then the material has not yielded and is still in plastic deformation.
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Im currently writing a lab report on combined bending and torsion and comparing yield points to theory. I'm not quite sure I know what is going on though. I understnad what Tresca and Von Mises is but I'm not sure how they apply. If I were to use the equations and obtain a value over 1 for each criteria, does this mean that the material has yielded and is now in plastic deformation? Has anyone got any simple explanations and applications of this theory, I'd really appreciate it.
 
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Im currently writing a lab report on combined bending and torsion and comparing yield points to theory. I'm not quite sure I know what is going on though. I understnad what Tresca and Von Mises is but I'm not sure how they apply. If I were to use the equations and obtain a value over 1 for each criteria, does this mean that the material has yielded and is now in plastic deformation? Has anyone got any simple explanations and applications of this theory, I'd really appreciate it.
I don't know much about Tresca, but I've used Von Mises on a few occasions. Von Mises is just a combined shear and bending stress and axial stress equation that uses the 'square root of the sum of the squares' combined stresses, with shear stress adjusted by a factor of root 3 so that the combined stress resultant can be compared to the yield stress of the metal(shear ultimate stress is approximately the tensile yield stress dived by root 3). So what I do is determine the design load bending and axial stress, and multiply it by an overload factor, then determine the shear load stress, multiply it by a load factor and the sq rt of 3, then take the sq rt of the sum of the squares of those values and be sure that the result is less than the yield stress. As an example using USA A36 steel which has a tensile yield stress of 36 Ksi, if the bending stress with overload factor is 30 ksi and the shear stress with overload factor is 5 ksi, then the sq rt of [(30)^2 + 3(5)^2)] is 31.2 ksi less than 36 ksi...OK! Now you can go to Wiki and read all about plasticity and principal stress etc but just keep combined stresses per formula less than yield and you are fine (and using a healthy overload factor saves the day)
 
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Von Mises and Tresca are just theories of when yielding begins. Von Mises is based on distortion energy and Tresca is based on maximum shear stress. Depending on which one you want to use, you plug in your principal stresses and see if the value is below your material tension allowable. If it is, you can say it won't yield. However, usually von Mises is for ductile materials and Tresca is used for brittle materials, but that's not a hard and fast rule.
 
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Thank you both. Excellent help.
 

What is the Von Mises/Tresca Question?

The Von Mises/Tresca Question is a problem in mechanics that deals with the determination of the maximum stress a material can withstand before it begins to deform or fail. It is named after the two scientists who developed the theories behind it, Richard Von Mises and Hubert Tresca.

What is the difference between Von Mises and Tresca theories?

The main difference between the Von Mises and Tresca theories is in their approach to determining the maximum stress. The Von Mises theory is based on the concept of equivalent stress, which takes into account the combined effect of all three principal stresses. The Tresca theory, on the other hand, focuses on the maximum shear stress and does not consider the effect of normal stresses.

When is the Von Mises theory more appropriate to use?

The Von Mises theory is more appropriate to use when dealing with ductile materials, such as metals, that can undergo plastic deformation before failure. This is because it takes into account the combined effect of all three principal stresses, making it more accurate for predicting the onset of plastic deformation.

What are the limitations of the Tresca theory?

The Tresca theory is limited in its application to materials that exhibit a distinct yield point, such as brittle materials like ceramics. It also does not take into account the effect of normal stresses, which can be significant in some cases.

How are the Von Mises and Tresca theories used in practical engineering applications?

The Von Mises and Tresca theories are used in practical engineering applications to determine the maximum stress that a material can withstand before failure. This information is crucial in designing structures and machines that are safe and reliable. Engineers also use these theories to analyze and predict the behavior of materials under different loading conditions.

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