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News Wave goodbye to Sarah Palin

  1. Apr 14, 2009 #1

    Ivan Seeking

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    Is her national political career over - a flash in the pan? I think so.

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    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...as_sen_leaves_former_running_mate_off_li.html
     
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  3. Apr 14, 2009 #2

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    Historically, the VP candidate on a losing Republican ticket has faded into obscurity.

    Henry Cabot Lodge did serve as Ambassador to Viet Nam after being Nixon's 1960 running mate, but he never held elective office again.

    William Miller, Goldwater's '64 VP candidate, never held elective office again and became so obscure even he wasn't sure what happened to him.

    Jack Kemp never held elective office again after being Dole's running mate in '96.

    The only exception was Bob Dole, who was Ford's running mate in '76. Twenty years later, he was the Republican nominee. So it is possible to come back from being the losing Republican VP candidate. It just takes a long, long time. Palin's still young, so who knows.

    Historically, the runner up in a contested Republican primary has been the next Republican Presidential candidate. Reagan was runner up in '76. Bush was runner up in '80. Dole was runner up in '88. McCain was runner up in '00. The only exception was Jack Kemp, who was both runner up and VP candidate in '96.

    Romney would be a good bet. Huckabee might be a good bet.

    On the other hand, the Republican Party might be at such a low point that the field opens up for first time Presidential candidates. Jindal, Christ, and Pawlenty all seem like reasonable possibilities (but they always do until they get beat by the previous runner up).
     
  4. Apr 14, 2009 #3

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    He went on to say:
    I'd say his failure to mention Palin was intentional. Most of the questions on these late shows are prepared for, so I imagine McCain was quite purposeful in making the signal. It's not like he could have forgotten her, even at his age.
     
  5. Apr 14, 2009 #4
    Is this tantamount to McCain admitting poor judgement in selecting Sarah as his running mate? If McCain had been elected, Sarah would be the VP right now, but instead she is unmentionable. This is an unclassy move by McCain!
     
  6. Apr 14, 2009 #5

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    Does it matter?

    Shouldn't we all just be thankful for the fact that they didn't get into power? That we didn't have the VP's sister in law arrested for burglary? The unwed father of the the VP's grandson, on the outside looking in, before there was even a wedding?

    I think it is for sure we would see the world in a worse place than it is now after just 8 years of Republican neglect if these people had continued in power.

    Besides, I think McCain's right in that Palin is no more the future of the Republican Party than Steven Colbert.
     
  7. Apr 14, 2009 #6
    is it her that thought Africa or Europe is a country?
     
  8. Apr 15, 2009 #7

    Ivan Seeking

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    Yes, at least that much.
     
  9. Apr 15, 2009 #8
    Yes, she's the one who was not up on current events.
     
  10. Apr 15, 2009 #9

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    So have some of the actual Republican VPs. Who remembers Dan Quayle for anything besides his "potatoe" gaffe?
     
  11. Apr 15, 2009 #10

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    I almost forgot him. Actually he was a VP candidate on a losing ticket, as well (1992).

    Of course, he always seemed kind of .... well .... stupid. Stupid probably out trumps any position he might have held - well, except in years that have a leap day in spite of ending in 00.
     
  12. Apr 16, 2009 #11

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    Looks like Sarah Palin is determined to make trouble for herself.

    When Kim Elton a Democratic Senator from Alaska took an appointment with the Obama administration, it left a vacancy that Sarah Palin was to appoint. Her problem is that rather than asking for a list of names that the Democrats might find acceptable, since they are the ones that must ratify any appointment since Elton was a Democrat, she apparently submitted her own choice.

    Well the Democrats have now rejected 2 of her appointments to the position. So her latest stunt was to take the extra legal move of submitting 3 names, two of which have already been rejected. The Democrats have pointed out that she must appoint one, because of the rather obvious idea that 3 people cannot simultaneously be appointed to serve for one seat in the senate.

    Compounding her woe now is that her Attorney General designate, who's appointment is also pending, issued an opinion that she could submit 3 names because she could simply ignore the wording in the Alaska State Constitution. Now his appointment may be in jeopardy, being as he is now on record as counseling the Governor to ignore the State Constitution.

    http://community.adn.com/adn/node/140562 [Broken]

    Here's the Senate Legal Counsel's Opinion about the extraordinary (extra-legal) process Palin is pursuing:
    http://media.adn.com/smedia/2009/04/15/11/opinion_re_senate_vacancy.source.prod_affiliate.7.pdf [Broken]

    McCain is apparently right about her.
     
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  13. Apr 16, 2009 #12

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    This just in:

    The guy that was the third name submitted on the list with the 2 other rejected names, has withdrawn his name now.

    Curiouser and curiouser.

    http://community.adn.com/adn/node/140598 [Broken]

    So now there are 2.

    And both have been rejected in the last several weeks.

    Egads think what a mess she would have made with the Federal Budget, if she can't think her way out of this simple appointment.

    It's a good thing we have a community organizer in the Oval Office, that can handle complex decisions.
     
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  14. Apr 16, 2009 #13

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    And now the ax fell on Ross too it seems as a result of his poor lawyerly advice about ignoring the State Constitution. (Of course he also was carrying other baggage, which apparently was the kind of baggage Palin's fundamentalist beliefs prefer.)
    http://www.adn.com/news/politics/story/762037.html [Broken]
    Sounds like the kind of advice that Bush squeezed out of his attorneys for justifying torture and spying on Americans.
     
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  15. Apr 16, 2009 #14
    *waves goodbye to Sarah Palin* *Sarah looks bewildered and waves back*

    I don't believe she is leaving office or anything. Is this just another Sarah bashing thread?
     
  16. Apr 16, 2009 #15

    Ivan Seeking

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    I think the point of the thread was pretty clear. Is her national political career over; esp given that McCain is signalling as much?
     
  17. Apr 16, 2009 #16

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    Did that wedding ever actually happen?
     
  18. Apr 16, 2009 #17
    I think she has a bright future in Hollywood.
     
  19. Apr 16, 2009 #18

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    Nope.

    Levi is single and available.

    Now if he ever graduates from high school he might be quite a catch.
     
  20. Apr 16, 2009 #19

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    fyi:

    EDIT: Weird, my post got autoconverted to all lowercase???
     
  21. Apr 16, 2009 #20

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    http://www.adn.com/palin/story/762243.html [Broken]

    Getting recognition from Michael Steele?

    Yeah, that and $3.75 will get you a Frappuccino at Starbucks.
     
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