# Wedge-Spring-Block Problem

1. Apr 30, 2015

### DSM_

I can't figure out how the answer is (A). The spring is the problem. I thought the spring would just extend and whole thing would act like a string.
If there were no spring then the answer come out to be (6/5)m. Please help.

2. Apr 30, 2015

### AlephNumbers

Have you learned about gravitational potential energy and spring energy yet?

3. Apr 30, 2015

### haruspex

I agree, and since k does not appear in any of the answers, the questioner agrees the spring is irrelevant.
My guess is that the coefficient was supposed to be 1/4.

4. Apr 30, 2015

### AlephNumbers

Even when the gravitational force exerted on the block M is equal to the spring force exerted on block M, the block is still moving. Your method presumes that this is not true. If you use conservation of energy to solve for the maximum spring force, answer (A) can be arrived at.

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5. Apr 30, 2015

### haruspex

You are assuming that block M is released with the spring just taut, i.e. at its relaxed length. Yes, that gives answer A, so that is probably what is intended, but I see nothing in the problem statement to justify that assumption.

6. Apr 30, 2015

### DSM_

Okay, I have to do it with energy conservation.
If block is released when spring is relaxed, if it moves x downwards,
Work done by grav = Potential energy of Spring.
1/2kx^2 = Mgx
kx = 2Mg
Then tension is kx everywhere in string. Then equating to (friction + mgsin37) gives answer (A).

Is this correct?

7. Apr 30, 2015

### haruspex

Seems so. Still a poorly worded question, and congratulations to AlephNumbers for guessing what was meant.

8. Apr 30, 2015

### DSM_

I think questioner want us to assume that the spring is relaxed otherwise there wouldn't be any spring at all.

Yup, thanks AlephNumbers :)