What an Idiot

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Has anyone heard of this guy before? He is such an idiot! Not to mention an egomaniac.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4840722755857474101&q=michael+moore&total=4445&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1 [Broken]
 
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You haven't heard of Michael Moore? That cave must be cold this time of year!
 
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Did I mention crybaby?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4840722755857474101&q=michael+moore&total=4445&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1 [Broken]
 
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Did you see Sicko?
 
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I am not a fan of Michael Moore. I think he is a fat egotistic slob. But he does make movies that hit at the heart of issues.
 
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Apparently, there is a sub-set of our society that as is so insulated from social issues that even the most basic appeals to social fairness can be marginalized. Pretty sad.
 
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Did you see Sicko?

Yeah, I saw it. I understand why people like it, as it definitely appeals to the emotions. But seriously, why would anyone get informed about issues from this fat college drop-out? Why would people make political/policy decisions based on something done by Michael Moore? I mean, if you really want to learn something about economic issues (which is definitely what health care is) then don't read too much into anything Michael Moore says. Instead, read books by people like F.A. Hayek, Fredrich Bastiat, and Adam Smith. But I doubt anybody would want to do this considering it's much more difficult and less fun then getting drunk and watching a Michael Moore flick. I mean our society is really in trouble when large groups of people think Michael Moore is any kind of authority on politics or economics. Luckily, most people who buy into his crap are already super liberal socialists, so his movies probably don't actually make any difference (accept for the fact that he makes millions of dollars, while at the same time trashing "companies," "profits," "greed," etc).

I am not a fan of Michael Moore. I think he is a fat egotistic slob. But he does make movies that hit at the heart of issues.

I don't know about at the "heart" of issues. More like the "heart" of humans. Not always the brain though.

Apparently, there is a sub-set of our society that as is so insulated from social issues that even the most basic appeals to social fairness can be marginalized. Pretty sad.

It's sad when a large sub-set of our society is so insultated from reality that they deify Michael Moore. It is even sadder that a large sub-set of our society cares more about their own ego, then trying to understand what actually works and what actually makes human beings (especially poor ones) better off. It's so important for many people to feel like they "are making a difference" in the world, even if they don't have the slighest clue about how to actually do so. In my opinion it is incredibly arrogant and selfish.
 
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How are those straw men holding up?
 
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Apparently, there is a sub-set of our society that as is so insulated from social issues that even the most basic appeals to social fairness can be marginalized. Pretty sad.

If you'd like some good sources on Michael Moore I'd suggest the following links:

http://www.moorewatch.com/index.php/weblog/f911"

http://moorelies.com/" [Broken]
http://www.mooreexposed.com/" [Broken]
 
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It's so important for many people to feel like they "are making a difference" in the world, even if they don't have the slighest clue about how to actually do so. In my opinion it is incredibly arrogant and selfish.

True.

I read a poll that showed that people who recycle feel as if they are doing their part to help the environment. Most of them dont understand that recycling is the worst option, reducing and reusing are far better options, but they put a plastic single serving water bottle in a recycling bin and feel they are saving the planet.

Unfortunately most never get more information than what is broadcast on their infotainment media.
 
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I guess you really do have to be pretty and thin to be an accepted celebrity.

We have posters who freely admit that they watch and appreciate his creations, yet they prefer judge him on his fatness, his (apparent) slobbishness, and (:gasp: unheard of in the film industry) egotism...
 
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I guess you really do have to be pretty and thin to be an accepted celebrity.

We have posters who freely admit that they watch and appreciate his creations, yet they prefer judge him on his fatness, his (apparent) slobbishness, and (:gasp: unheard of in the film industry) egotism...
I don't like his "films". What he looks like doesn't matter.
 
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I don't like his "films". What he looks like doesn't matter.

What country do you live in ?
 
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Then the previous statement makes no sense :rolleyes:
(there needs to be more 'ironic' smileys)
 
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What he looks like doesn't matter.
You seem to be in a small club in these parts. :rolleyes:
 
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Well, you would think a fat bastardo would get into shape if he cared about health. Right? :tongue2:

Yes, no? Hello? Tap tap, this thing on?
 
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Michael Moore is a conspiracy nutjob at the end of the day. Maybe not Alex Jones-esque, but still a nutjob.
 
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Michael Moore is a conspiracy nutjob at the end of the day. Maybe not Alex Jones-esque, but still a nutjob.

Being emotional doesn't automatically make him wrong. When he released Fahrenheit 911, he put out a challenge where he would give somebody $10,000 if they could point out flaws in the movie. So far nobody has been able to claim that prize, since most disagreement comes from stupid things like "saudis didn't a free flight out of the country, they used their own money". Misinterpreting a word that has several meaning is not a flaw.....
 
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Being emotional doesn't automatically make him wrong. When he released Fahrenheit 911, he put out a challenge where he would give somebody $10,000 if they could point out flaws in the movie. So far nobody has been able to claim that prize, since most disagreement comes from stupid things like "saudis didn't a free flight out of the country, they used their own money". Misinterpreting a word that has several meaning is not a flaw.....

http://www.moorewatch.com/index.php/weblog/f911"
http://www.mooreexposed.com/" [Broken]

These are very good sources which point out the flaws and deception in Fahrenheit 911. I suggest you read them.
 
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http://www.moorewatch.com/index.php/weblog/f911"
http://www.mooreexposed.com/" [Broken]

These are very good sources which point out the flaws and deception in Fahrenheit 911. I suggest you read them.

I could care less about Moore, but one has to wonder how anyone could conclude that a site called "moorewatch" or "mooreexposed" is impartial or respectable.
 
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Alright let's see what we have here.

Moore claims that minorities make up a larger portion of the military than exists in the general population.
Actually, in the movie he said that poor people make up the majority of the military. That seems almost verifiable....
Rural people are more likely to join the army
http://www.army.com/money/college.html [Broken]

Seems about right. Back in 1908, there was a huge flood of unemployed people trying to join the army. There was a market crash in 1907, so by that time people were pretty hard up for money, and they joined the army. Fahrenheit had a piece in it where he was talking to some lady at the unemployment office in Flint, and she was recommending people join the army since that's a reasonable place you can look to and always find a job.

Moore took advantage of a grieving mother when he paraded Lila Lipscomb through his movie.
Emotionalism is not a lie.

Moore was wrong about why we went to war with Iraq.
And from there he links to himself as the reference for why Saddam had to be taken out. Let's see what other crackpot theories I can dig up.
Saddam Hussein wants his oil to be paid for with Euros instead of US dollars - If other OPEC countries followed suit, this would lower the value of US dollars since the demand would drop.


I have to go right now but I'll finish this post later.
 
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Alright let's see what we have here.


Actually, in the movie he said that poor people make up the majority of the military. That seems almost verifiable....
Rural people are more likely to join the army
http://www.army.com/money/college.html [Broken]

Did you read the full article? Because he dug up the actual statistics on this.


Emotionalism is not a lie.

He was documenting on how Lila has gone from a grieving mother to a complete conspiracy whackjob. He documents this pretty well with complete sources. I suggest you read those sources.


And from there he links to himself as the reference for why Saddam had to be taken out. Let's see what other crackpot theories I can dig up.

He sources links to speeches which are external links.

These are the two links he links:

http://clinton.senate.gov/speeches/iraq_101002.html" [Broken]
http://john-kerry.tonyspencer.com/kerry-speech-10-9-2002.htm" [Broken]

He does not link himself anywhere.


I have to go right now but I'll finish this post later.


Please read the sources before you continue to post on Moore.
 
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I could care less about Moore, but one has to wonder how anyone could conclude that a site called "moorewatch" or "mooreexposed" is impartial or respectable.

9/11 conspiracy debunking websites have the following urls:

911myths.com
911debunking.com


So don't necessairly judge the content by the name of the url.
 
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You assume that because it is a debunking site it must be credible, which is absolutely false. Some of the biggest crackpots on the web are debunkers of various kinds.
 

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