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What are you sure you don't know?

  1. Apr 10, 2004 #1
    Think about it; if you're absolutely sure of something, doesn't that convey complete knowledge?
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  3. Apr 10, 2004 #2
    In the midst of a disaster I achived a state of certainty, it has come upon me many times in many different places. Right now though, I am a complete fool. How can I have achieved certainty if right now I am not certain? That is your riddle.
  4. Apr 10, 2004 #3
    Are you completely certain that you are now a fool? I posit a difference in the feeling of certainty and its actual being. Perhaps your present "foolishness" is more like an objectivity regarding those times of disaster.
  5. Apr 10, 2004 #4
    Not neccesrarily. You could be absolutely sure that you know the answer to something...say what
    QED" is an acronym for. You're really sure to such an extent you might as well say that you're very close to thinking you know the answer. But, when you guess (because remember, you never knew the answer, you were just quite sure) that it stands for "Quantum Earth Dynamics". But you are dismayed to know that it actually stands for "Quantum Electrodynamics" :frown: .
    So there is no "complete knowledge".
    Also, that term can be subjective, right?
  6. Apr 10, 2004 #5
    I am a fool for speaking what I know and having this ever so slight bit of hope that the course of the future can be altered. And yet what is one to do with ones life? Is any one act better or worse than any other? I speak what I speak because it is and only because it is.

    Certainty(My definition) - A state beyond doubt, beyond convinced. Pure knowing. It will always be in accordance with reality as known or unknown.
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  7. Apr 10, 2004 #6
    I think it may depend on what you mean by knowledge.
  8. Apr 10, 2004 #7
    "I think two things"

    I think I am not sure, that maybe anyone can be sure of something but nobody sure of everything.

    Maybe knowledge is just one unified thought, that we continually interprete individually as new ideas.
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    That would depend to what degree you want to take the statement "complete knowledge". I can be certain something is a rock, I have complete knowledge that it is in fact a rock, but that doesn't mean I have complete knowledge of the rock's composition or formation.
  10. Apr 10, 2004 #9
    What makes a rock a rock, by the way Evo?
  11. Apr 10, 2004 #10
    In the final analysis, one can be sure of this: You have to take a chance you know something, or guess at the right course of action to take.

    The only things I am sure of: I exist, whatever that means. I live, whatever that means. Anything else I try not to worry too much about knowing.
  12. Apr 10, 2004 #11


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    According to the dictionary: A naturally formed aggregate of mineral matter constituting a significant part of the earth's crust; Relatively hard, naturally formed mineral or petrified matter; stone; consolidated or unconsolidated solid mineral matter.
  13. Apr 10, 2004 #12
    Evo, you *know* that your dictionary is always right . . . right?
  14. Apr 11, 2004 #13
    Here is something I am sure I don't know: the relationship between brain chemistry and emotion.

    According to the neurologists, depressed, angry, and unhappy moods are associated with certain chemicals in the brain. Happiness and contentment are associated with others.

    But are emotions the effect of brain chemistry, or are they the cause?

    In other words, if I am unhappy with my life, should I seek a more rewarding life, or should I just take pills to make me happy with the life I have?
  15. Apr 11, 2004 #14

    It seems, they are both necessary to have human exprience. Changes in the mind makes changes in the body and visa versa. Maybe life is a roadmap to find the right path.
  16. Apr 11, 2004 #15
    Back to the origin:

    Can you not realize anything that you are completely certain of?
  17. Apr 11, 2004 #16
    I do not know if there are any limitations other than what I place upon myself. I have tried four barriers and broken four. I suppose I do not know if I will break any more in this life time.
  18. Apr 11, 2004 #17


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    No, I don't believe that. But I *do* know what a rock is. :biggrin:
  19. Apr 12, 2004 #18
    I am sure that I do not know that I will die. Not that I believe I will live forever . . .
  20. Apr 20, 2004 #19
    Rock.. ba na na na na...

    You are right, You are completely sure that to the extent of your knowledge and abilities that the rock you hold in your hand is infact a rock, Complete Knowledge is something different though, it is the fact that whatever the circumstance, whatever happened what you know is true right now can be proved with better and better equipment as time trudges on and technology improves, so at the moment that rock is a rock to your best knowledge and abilities but in 100 years time it might be 97% solid magma, 2% dirt and 1%Iron.
  21. Apr 20, 2004 #20
    as long as i live in an eternal, infinite universe or omniverse, i will NEVER be certain of anything. once i no longer desire to expand my awareness, i will cease to exist.

    oops, i'm not certain of that either.

    love & peace,
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