So in retrospect, what do you think best describes him?
Isn't that redundant?How about: "Very smooth, otherwise typical politician"?
phatmonky said:but would LOVE to put him into an ambassador position.
Clinton didn't just lie to save his own hide, he would lie just to lie. At no time did he ever string ten sentences together before I began to wonder if he hadn't thrown in a whopper.
We can win the war quickly, and the Iraqis will welcome us. We can establish democracy in Iraq. Mission accomplished.JohnDubYa said:I just don't see George W. making up wild stories for no apparent reason.
We can win the war quickly...
, and the Iraqis will welcome us.
We can establish democracy in Iraq.
Wasn't George W. the one warning us that the war could take a long time, maybe even years?
I don't recall him ever saying this in such a fashion.[Bush's statement that the Iraqis will welcome American troops].
Who says we can't? [establish democracy in Iraq]
Context? (What mission is he talking about?)[referring to the mission accomplished banner displayed on the US carrier Bush landed on during his flightsuit debacle]
Were you by chance just posing another statement without backing?were you by chance, hiding under a rock last year?
Never wanted us there in the first place? In the middle of the height of the insurgency, before the interim government took place, people were split 50/50 on whether they wanted us there. So your statement is invalid. Secondly, the same poll says Iraqis are looking forward to their future and positive about it. They also voted that they want a democracy.how do you start a democracy in a country that never wanted us there in the first place? I shouldn't even localize it to country, that entire damn region hates our presence there (as evidenced by the numerous insurgent kidnappings of civilians.)
what mission do you think he could possibly be talking about? If you want context, how's this: we're in the midst of a WAR. The president has just claimed MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. And unless he was talking about completing his mission of fitting into that rediculous flight suit, i'm pretty sure the mission is the war.
Look who is talking. Did you bother to look at the date on your citation? Try again, and see if you can't come up with a better citation, one that was made before the war. No one is denying that Bush changed his tune after it was too late, once the mission had already been accomplished in his mind.phatmonky said:Yes.
Were you by chance just posing another statement without backing?
You own statement refutes your claim.Never wanted us there in the first place? In the middle of the height of the insurgency, before the interim government took place, people were split 50/50 on whether they wanted us there. So your statement is invalid.
This would be a wonderful arguement if it did not completely avoid the entire point under discussion, and instead present a completely irrelevant statement about nothing."Rediculous" flight suit?? Are you not aware that said flight suit is a safety feature when riding in a military jet, and you'd be a moron for turning it down?
phatmonky said:I did loook at the date, and it's irrelevant. Your statement was that Bush DID NOT say it would be a long term effort..
Please provide a citation that supports your claim that I stated that Bush did not say this. I think that you are quite confused.phatmonky said:speaking of changing tunes, good job on changing your original generalized statement.
I did loook at the date, and it's irrelevant. Your statement was that Bush DID NOT say it would be a long term effort.
Please provide a citation that supports your claim that I made this absolute statement. I think that you are quite confused.No, it doesn't. I never made the statement that they WANTED us there. You made the absolute statement that they didn't, and it was wrong.
It's not an argument, just pointing out the ignorance in your own irrelevant statements.
I think that you are confused. You certainly seem to be confused about anything that I have posted. If you are equally confused about everything else you have ever said, then I and others who read your postings should take them all with a grain of salt. Perhaps you confuse me with someone else here. You are showing your ignorance, by making absurd accusations against me when I never made the statements that you are challenging. Does that make you ignorant and irrelevant in your mind?phatmonky said:Once again prometheus, you have ignored your original statements with no backing. Try to bring some links next time.
Why do you people keep doing this?? Post a link!Gokul43201 said:clearly, before the war, Bush was suggesting that it will be quick.
Accepted. It could happen to any of us.phatmonky said:Prometheus. I looked at the damn page 10 times, and thought you were the one who I originally replied to, it was Gza DOH!
My humble apologies
phatmonky said:Why do you people keep doing this?? Post a link!