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  1. Jun 30, 2006 #1

    wolram

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    I know nothing about cameras, i think i had a box brownie or some such when i was a kid, so what camera can i buy that will work with a computer
    and does not cost mega bucks?
     
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  3. Jun 30, 2006 #2

    JamesU

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    not that I can answer your question, but how many threads have you started in the last week? You may be becomming pengwuino's apprentice:biggrin:
     
  4. Jun 30, 2006 #3

    wolram

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    Did some one speak :confused: what is a pengwuino :confused:
     
  5. Jun 30, 2006 #4

    JamesU

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    hopefully a banned member
     
  6. Jun 30, 2006 #5

    wolram

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    Gottcha, that bloby thing with funny ears :biggrin:
     
  7. Jun 30, 2006 #6

    NoTime

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    Try the cereal isle in the grocery store.
    They probably have one as a prize :smile:
     
  8. Jun 30, 2006 #7

    wolram

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    Does no one take life seriously any more? such an esteemed forum and all i get is noise :rofl:
     
  9. Jun 30, 2006 #8

    Chi Meson

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    Pretty much any digital camera works with any computer through a USB cable. Some use firewire, but that is not necessary for still pictures. If you want low cost, look on Ebay. I saw some decent name brand "point and shoot" digital camera go for $10 (postage was more expensive).

    Olymus, Nikon, Canon are trusty brands. For a good point and shoot cameras, I would expect to pay (starting at) $300 for no less than 4 megapixels.
     
  10. Jun 30, 2006 #9

    brewnog

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    Got a lovely Minolta Dimage Xg to replace my old film 'idiot' camera.

    If it's just for holiday snaps look for anything upward of 3.5 megapixels, anything from Nikon, Olympus, Canon, Minolta or Fuji. Don't be swayed by silly optical zoom lenses or loads of daft features, just make sure it's a nice bright lens, not too big an LCD panel (battery life!), rechargeable, and splash out on a nice big memory stick. Anything upwards of £130 on one of these brands and if you're not too fussy you won't be complaining. Get down to Jessops and ask to have a play with a few, then get yourself onto the interweb for the best prices.

    I very rarely use my SLRs these days.
     
  11. Jun 30, 2006 #10
    My travel camera is a Fuji Finepix E550. I love it. It takes nice pictures and also video with sound.
     
  12. Jun 30, 2006 #11
    Do not get a vivitar. Fuji has some really nice new cameras. Fuji and Canon generally have really good colors.

    visit
    www.dpreview.com
    ^^ best site ever
     
  13. Jun 30, 2006 #12
    I have a very cheap Kodak, that works really well. D/L's are so easy with any camera these days.


    When I can find it that is. Its been MIA for 8 months now.
     
  14. Jun 30, 2006 #13

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    These days, Canon is generally regarded as making the best all-around digital cameras. The other manufacturers are really not that far behind, though, so price or availability could easily be a swaying factor.

    After a *lot* of research, I bought a Canon SD450, which is a very small (mostly) point-and-shoot kinda camera. It has a beautiful display, a very easy and intuitive interface, and takes incredibly good pictures for its very small size.

    I also have a larger, much more expensive digital camera, a Sony F717, which admittedly takes better photos than the Canon, but is nearly the size of an SLR. I hardly ever use it anymore -- convenience often trumps a slight edge in photo quality when you're not an expert photographer.

    - Warren
     
  15. Jun 30, 2006 #14
    I also have a Canon Digital Rebel. So far, I have had to send it for repair of the shutter curtain two times. I have had it a year and a half. There is a serious flaw in the shutter curtain mechanism.
     
  16. Jun 30, 2006 #15

    chroot

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    The camera I mentioned, the SD450, is not a Rebel. I don't know anything about their SLR problems, but the SD450 is a top-of-its-class little camera.

    - Warren
     
  17. Jun 30, 2006 #16

    wolram

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    Thanks for advice every one, i will keep my eye out for an canon sd450.
     
  18. Jun 30, 2006 #17
    the SD450 only has x3 zoom... that's really not enough if you intend on getting faces of people or pictures of things that aren't really really close to you....

    i got the Konica Minolta DiMAGE Z2, and it's great, i think the Z3 is about the same price now, so i'd suggest this model.

    it has x12 optical zoom instead of x10 that the z2 has, and 4 mega-pixels instead of 3.4...
    both models have manual control over every thing (along with the automatic), so if you'd learn what everything does, you could get proffesional looking pictures.
    if you want an example, i could post some really great pictures i got with this camera.
    it looks like national geographic pictures.


    and as a side note - don't pay any attention to the digital zoom - it's just software resize, you dont get more details, optical zoom is the actual zoom the camera has.
     
  19. Jun 30, 2006 #18

    chroot

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    fargoth,

    It'd be rather silly to directly compare the Konica Minolta DiMAGE Z3 to the Canon SD450. The Konica weighs three times as much and is more than three times the size! Of course it has more room for a better optical zoom.

    The SD450 actually has better resolution, however.

    Actually wolram, fargoth brings an interesting point to the table. You should probably give us a list of desired characteristics first before we start throwing camera models at you. Do you want something tiny? Or are you okay with a camera that needs a carrying case with a shoulder strap, yet takes phenomenally good pictures? The market is saturated with cameras of all shapes and sizes.

    - Warren
     
  20. Jun 30, 2006 #19
    yeah, and you should tell us what price range youre considering too, the SD450 costs about half of what minolta Z3 costs...

    by the way, Warren, i dont think you really get more details with the SD450's 5 MPixels, compared with minolta's 4 - i think the camera's optics are the limiting factor, not the CCD resolution (maybe i'll do the math tomorrow, but i think i'm right).
    and even if you could get advantage of the 5 Mpixels you got, you can only see it if you print it on something as big as A4...
    5 Mpixels is an overkill, and it takes up too much memory anyway.
     
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  21. Jun 30, 2006 #20

    chroot

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    It's possible, but resolution never hurts.

    The SD450, on its highest-resolution setting, can put something like 400 pictures on a 1GB SD card, which runs about $35 retail. I'm not that concerned about the file size.

    - Warren
     
  22. Jun 30, 2006 #21

    wolram

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    Thanks Chroot, fargoth, i will be be documenting the restoration/conversion of my motorbike, so i need a camera for that, and i
    would like some pics of local beauty spots ,those are the two main reasons for wanting a camera.
     
  23. Jun 30, 2006 #22
    I probably should have worded it differently. I meant that in addition to the Fuji I mentioned in my previous post, I also have a Digital Rebel. I did not mean to imply that I thought your Canon was also a Digital Rebel nor that all Canons would not be reliable.:blushing:
     
  24. Jun 30, 2006 #23

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    I have the SD400, which is just a few bells and whistles less than the SD450, and I love it. It fit both of my criteria...small (or else I'd never use it...my old camera was too big to want to carry around, so I never had it with me when an interesting photo opportunity popped up), and point-and-shoot with some ability to change the settings as I learn more about how to use it or want to play with those sorts of things.

    For my needs, I probably could have gone with just a 4 megapixel camera, but since I don't buy cameras very often, and every once in a blue moon I might wish I had the bit extra resolution, and the 5 megapixel wasn't out of my price range, I decided to go for it.

    But, Wollie, you might not need or want that much if you just want pictures to share online. More megapixels are mostly useful if you want to make large prints without them turning grainy looking. 4 megapixels might be plenty enough for you, and will be a bit cheaper.

    I think the best way to start out is to just go to your local electronics store and see the range available. Pick them up, play with them, see if you can figure out the controls enough to get a picture easily, see if you like the size and feel, factor in the cost of the memory stick (though, keep in mind that while that seems expensive at first, it's a one-time purchase...you don't have to shell out more money every time you need a new roll of film), and then you'll have an idea of the features that are important and ones that aren't, and maybe even a particular brand or model you really like best, and what's generally in your price range. Then you can take that information and shop for the best price for what suits your needs.
     
  25. Jun 30, 2006 #24

    wolram

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    Do most of these cameras adjust automaticaly to different light levels?

    I guess i will not need super quality and the less gizmos the better, i just need a solid dependable one.
     
  26. Jul 1, 2006 #25

    NoTime

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    I wasn't being entirely a noise source.:rofl:
    What you can get for $10 is good enough for most things.
    And you might actually find one as a box prize. :smile:

    The higher resolution multi megapixle cameras really won't make much, if any, difference in what you see displayed on your computer screen.
    In particular because most computer displays are way less than 1 megapixle.
    It's only worthwhile to get a high megapixle if you are planning to do extensive cropping or large format prints.
     
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