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What can Bush do to gain back favor?

  1. Sep 7, 2005 #1
    This is an opinion thread, so it doesn't matter where you lean or if you lean at all... what is your suggestion to Junior?

    I wanna stop thrashing his azz for a while... so let's forget about the past mistakes and give feedback and guidance: "what can bushy do now?"

    I hope not to get the obvious suggestions such as "kill himself, or step down from office", or anything like that... i don't want to say that you are not entitled to that opinion, but those are just not very likely to happen.

    So, here's my first suggestion for you to attack:
    1) Open discussions with the United Nations to get their opinion on what America should do to gain the world's trust back and end the war.

    Since his attention is diverted from Iraq, the odds of having a clearcut victory will diminish. He needs to focus his energy at home or he may lose both fronts.

    Analogy: if you are financially viable and your children are sick, you should not be going to work until they are recovering. If you love your kids, you will not be able to work with a clear mind anyway. If you do not take care of your children, your children will not take care of you.

    So, what do you propose?
     
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  3. Sep 7, 2005 #2

    DM

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    Resign or otherwise exacerbate his position.
     
  4. Sep 7, 2005 #3

    vanesch

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    Damn. :grumpy:
     
  5. Sep 7, 2005 #4
    Stop ending every speech he does with Religious connotations
    Learn how to speak properly
    Stop lying
    Admit he was wrong to go into Iraq
    And finally Resign, after getting on all fours and pleading to the world for forgiveness

    :-)
     
  6. Sep 7, 2005 #5

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    Internationally he is beyond redemption. No matter what he says and does now nobody will ever trust him.
     
  7. Sep 7, 2005 #6

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    Have you checked on the UN reforms to be discussed this fall? Your suggestion appears about as likely as Bush stepping down.

    I'd read an article a couple of weeks ago that had a little more detail on changes the US had in mind than this one, but I can't find it right off the bat. Bush picked a very contentious person for the UN because he plans to take a very contentious position.

    If you believe in what Bush is trying to accomplish, then the only suggestion is to do it better. Even if you don't believe in what Bush is trying to accomplish, it's bad to see him do it so badly that the country is hurt. One key to doing things better would be to listen to people in the know, even if their advice doesn't quite match what Bush wants to hear.

    Invading Iraq invites all kinds of problems, just because of the lack of unity within the country. Still, things didn't have to go this badly. Rumsfeld was so committed to the faster, leaner military that the Bush administration discarded advice from military leaders, figuring they were just dinosaurs stuck in the past. Reforming the military in peace time is a great idea, but when it comes time to fight, he should listen to the guys that are going to be doing the fighting for him.

    It's one thing to search for supporting evidence to feed the public, hoping to generate support for his policies. He should at least prevent himself and his staff from being duped by the same garbage he's feeding the public.
     
  8. Sep 7, 2005 #7

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    It's ironic that the US started the UN and now because it no longer serves them it is hell bent on destroying it. Perhaps the other UN members should band together and expel the US and reform without them; though obviously not ideal it is better than simply maintaining the status quo whereby the UN is toothless and impotent in international affairs unless the US gives them permission to get involved.
     
  9. Sep 7, 2005 #8
    2. Fire Rove
    3. Admit Iraq was a mistake
    4. Suggest a pro choice candidate for O'connor's spot


    There are tons more. I am glad he acknowledged a failure on the NO situation. I am surprised he acknowledged a failure. I don't believe he's ever done that before. It's a step in the right direction.

    I am asking that he be human and compassionate, and connect with real, breathing people, rather than take a cowboy "my way or the highway" attitude.
     
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  10. Sep 7, 2005 #9
    Here are a few more. You'd think he could do a *few* of these anyway:

    5. Get the back-door army recruitment loophole out of No Child Left Behind
    6. Support tax breaks for fuel-efficient vehicles, not hummers
    7. Stop using 9/11 as a justification for everything, or at least stop putting it in every speech
    8. Recognize that ID is not science and has no place in science.

    I'm sure more will come to me. He hasn't been able to do a single thing (besides admitting that NO was a disaster) that I have approved of.
     
  11. Sep 7, 2005 #10
    9. Acknowledge that "Culture of life" does not mean killing Iraqis on bad intelligence
    10. Appoint scientists rather than oil men to science advisory positions
     
  12. Sep 7, 2005 #11

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    Aside from pattylou's list, which I agree with (the last one above would mean acknowledgement of global warming), I also found it interesting when previous presidents Clinton and Bush Sr. helped raise funds for the Tsunami. I was pleased to see Dubya involve others for the first time like that, and from both sides of the aisle. They are doing a repeat to raise funds for NO.

    I suggest he does more of that, which is what I've suggested regarding damaged foreign relations. Instead of sending Bolton to the UN to continue a belligerent policy, he should be assembling a team of fence menders, and from both sides of the aisle. Unfortunately, this is where his neocon God complex is not likely to change. We can only hope he won't invade any other countries before we can replace him.

    And most of all the spending like it's the end of the world (since he probably believes it is, or perhaps will make it so) has to stop. After the cronyism of the energy bill and pork in the highway bill--especially in view of what we spend each day on the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq--there must be better effort toward a balanced budget. Of course we need to maintain our infrastructure, but I had really hoped he would veto the highway bill as he said he would and force congress back to the drawing board.

    Bush needs to show real leadership, and if he can't than he needs to humble himself and involve others who can help get the job done.
     
  13. Sep 7, 2005 #12
    i think as someone who is not american, it would be nice to see a little more of a humanitarian forign policy. there are a couple problems in africa and south america that could benifit from american clout. not a huge operation like iraq or afghanistan of course, but stuff like monitoring democratic elections for foul play. not an intervention but sending some help where its needed. i know there already is a lot of support in these areas but its not 'news' because its not new.

    do a bunch of small humanitarian aid stuff that takes some planing and not just throwing a few tons of non-perishable food around, since that dosnt make news anymore. make it look like hes not spending a lot of resources to do the stuff but hes putting it where it counts.
     
  14. Sep 7, 2005 #13

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    What does he have to do to gain back favor? Belch.

    Having seen him voted him back for a second time, it's clear that Americans are only too glad to have him at the helm of their handbasket. He could eat babies and they'd forgive him.
     
  15. Sep 7, 2005 #14
    Talk about impossible tasks.

    I guess he could start by assuming some responsibility for his administration. He only admitted there was a failure in response to the NO disaster because the effort to spin it failed. He still has not assumed responsibility, instead he will investigate and then mete out blame.

    I don't think there is anything he can do. But give Rove time to massage the message, and they may be able to recover his approval back close to 50%.

    Anything short of replacing his entire administration would not satisfy me but I don't see him doing anything but 'staying the course'.

    Has anyone seen the leaked memo from Chertoff to Mike Brown telling him to dispatch public relations people to New Orleans to portray the agency in a positive light?

    I heard about it but have not seen it. If anyone does please share with the rest of us.
     
  16. Sep 7, 2005 #15
    Resign and plead guilty.
     
  17. Sep 7, 2005 #16
    Have you got a reference for this? I don't recall any "spin" effort until after his personal visit, which was when he admitted it was a mess.
     
  18. Sep 7, 2005 #17
    He can use the same Karl Rove propaganda tactics and dirty tricks that he used to gain favor in the first place.

    He doesn't care if he has the favor of any country except England, so he won't even try there.

    He will influence the United nations by allowing Bolton to intimidate UN delegates into thinking that they might lose their jobs. (watch out for this one, delegates who don't cooperate with Bolton will be disappearing from the UN.)

    And lastly HE, is Dick Cheney, big oil, and corporate greed. Bush is only the spokesperson.
     
  19. Sep 7, 2005 #18
    Are you kidding? For days he was saying what a wonderful job everybody was doing. He said Brownie was doing a wonderful job, after he muttered a few times about it being unacceptable.

    Hell, he was still saying that nobody could have expected the levees to breach, and that was thursday.
     
  20. Sep 7, 2005 #19
    Ya'll are taking a pie-in-the-sky approach to getting Bush into America's good graces. All he needs to do is photo-op after photo-op proclaiming how sucessful "brownie" is---American's love nicknames---and trow in the occasional democracy-iraq-terrorism jib. Bush doesn't need to change, the media does. The media has to stop giving this guy good press for screwing up.
     
  21. Sep 7, 2005 #20
    Right. I think Skyhunter has the sequence of events wrong.

    My perception is that he ignored it initially. For anyone to suggest that there was an intentional spin on Tuesday, Wednesday -- Muddies what the sequence of events actually was.

    They're spinning it *now.* They didn't spin it *before* he said it was a mess.

    Agreed?
     
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