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What do you biology types make of this?

  1. Jun 13, 2003 #1

    Ivan Seeking

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    I would normally post this kind of thing in the PS section, but it seems that we must have something unusual here. What do you good people make of this? Due to the testing that has allegedly already been done, I am assuming that this is not a hoax.

    http://www.starchildproject.com/
     
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  3. Jun 13, 2003 #2

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    This one is new to me. I'd have to look into it, but my immediate reaction is that it's PS junk.

    About the author (from his website)..."Lloyd Pye is an author, researcher, and lecturer in the field of alternative knowledge. He calls on over 30 years of experience as he writes and speaks about the origins of life, human origins, hominoids (bigfoot, sasquatch and others), and the work of Zecharia Sitchin. This broad base of knowledge has made him one of the world's leading proponents of the "Interventionist" theory of origins, which stands in contrast to Darwinsim, Creationism, and Intelligent Design."

    About Zecharia Sitchin...
    http://www.skepdic.com/sitchin.html
    (begins with the assumption that ancient myths are not myths but historical and scientific texts)
     
  4. Jun 13, 2003 #3

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    ah huh...or maybe its the mainstream position simply because we know pathology accounts for a lot, genetics determines our structure, environment can affect it etc. Occams Razor and all that...yeah, you know where I stand.
    LOL...HAHAHHA..HAHAHHAH..OMG these sorts of people amuse the hell out of me. I can't wait for the day that these people grow up, and look back at the twisted 'rationality' that they use in the analysis of situations.

    Sure, maybe science, and mainstream ideas ahve this peculiar weight behind them which stops people from thinking 'outside the square'. I won't deny that, but it happens because we KNOW that it wokrs! We know that science has reasoning behind it. It provides answers, and those answers WORK!

    So...what do YOU think hey? That this old fashioned closed minded science crap has the answer...or ALIENS.... you know, those things that ahve no evidence for their existence, have no connection to anything...that ahve nothing going for them, came down, and created ONE half human half alien thing, and then let it die because they got bored or soemthing?

    What would inspire an Advanced Race of being to do that? Why? How? Did they genetically engineer the kid? Why can't that genetic change happen by chance? It was rather humanesque still wasn't it? Why can't it have just been an inversion mutation or something in the structural genes of the head???

    Occams razor people...
     
  5. Jun 14, 2003 #4

    Ivan Seeking

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    Just for the record, I don't know anything about Pye's theories and such. What caught my attention is that this appears to be a real and a very strange skull indeed. I would have posted this to the PS section were his theories of interest.
     
  6. Jun 14, 2003 #5

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    Yeah true, it is a very strange skull.

    My first thought is : Does it exist? Have we any external validation of its existence? (personally, this guy's word and some pictures don't convince me of anything)

    Secondly: In validating its existence, has its authenticity as an actual been validated? Pye says experiments are being done on it...but again, I don't trust his word yet. Where is the paperwork which proves this thing exists, as a real skull?

    Once I had verified that this thing even exists as it is supposed to, I would then think about it more. The DNA extraction should show mutations in it which explain some of the deformation I would say.

    Have you seen the images of all those babies in large alcohol filled jars kept as a result of the radiation issues after Chernobyl? There is some freaky stuff there too!
    (And no one claims that they are aliens...)
    (well, some might.....freaks.)
     
  7. Jun 14, 2003 #6

    Ivan Seeking

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    Does this thing actually exist? Hmmm. If no one else has heard about this perhaps existence is an issue. I may do a little digging just out of curiosity. As far as these exotic claims, well, DNA tests will resolve questions there. Why anyone would put forth a radical theory before the tests are complete...well, this is just silliness. But still, if real, what a strange skull. While working in the medical field I saw some hydrocephalic babies that were quite shocking, however this seems to be something else altogether. As far as the Chernobyl babies go, YIKES! I don't think I want to see them.
     
  8. Jun 14, 2003 #7

    Ivan Seeking

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  9. Jun 15, 2003 #8

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    well, that looks a lot more convincing. I am now forced to take on the stand point, that the most likely explanation is that it is either a genetic disorder, or a result of 'binding' or whatever it was. Either of those is MUCH more likely than 'Aliens came, made a half man alien thing, and then left it to die'
     
  10. Jun 15, 2003 #9

    Ivan Seeking

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    It looks Ferengi to me.

    Really though, just imagine if he had a brain to fill that skull! Whatever it is, I have never seen anything like it. I would tend to think it must be some sort of genetic disorder. The details would seem to preclude a binding ritual; or any artificial influences.
     
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