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What do you think of ghosts?

  1. I believe in ghosts

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  2. I do not believe in ghosts

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  1. Aug 17, 2011 #1
    I like to ask this question every now and then to new people. So what do you think, real or a bedtime story that has been taken too far?

    Me personally, I absolutely believe in ghosts. As a kid I had this crazy experience that lasted all night long and I cant even begin to explain. Ive only told a few people but everyone thinks I am smoking crack by the time I finished. One of my friends mom has a eye for the supernatural and Ive heard some crazy stories from her.

    Aside from demons and evil posessions, what do you think and how do you feel about ghosts. Have you ever had a personal experience? How do you even explain them in a physical sense or scientifically? Im curious to the responses from the scientific community..

    PS: Ghost Hunters is awesome and pure proof.
     
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    Well I dont really agree with the EMF and the K2 sensors that they use, but they have caught some pretty wild stuff on camera; thing moving, sounds and voices, and most importantly full body abaritions in front of the camera and all. Thats their only credibility for me but its video proof that matters most.

    As far as Ghost adventure, wtf... That show is so corny and waaaaay overdramatic. This juicehead guy in a shirt that could fit a 4th grade girl running around "OMG WHAT WAS THAT, DID YOU HEAR THAT!!! OMG THAT WAS A GHOST!!" Nope, dont sit there and listen to it, run around like a little baby making all the noise in the world. They never catch anything on camera anyways. Ghost Hunters is actually professional about it.

    But screw all that crap. What do you people really personally think regardless of the shows that air?
     
  5. Aug 18, 2011 #4
    Once I was tormented by "the devil," and that was enough.
     
  6. Aug 18, 2011 #5

    Ivan Seeking

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    The Ghost Hunters is proof of nothing, but my wife and I both had a number of strange experiences in our second apartment, so I understand the interest.

    Do strange things happen that seem to defy explanation. On that I would have to say yes according to our own experiences. Do I think it was dead person making contact with the living? That is a far different question and I have no idea. I have no reason to default to that as an explanation.
     
  7. Aug 18, 2011 #6

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    I've told the story before. He's a copy

     
  8. Aug 18, 2011 #7
    I have had odd experiences but in every situation where I was able to investigate further I found that there was a rather mundane explanation. When I first started working security at night it was rather eerie walking around at night, hearing random noises, and seeing things move in areas that were pretty much deserted save for myself. After a while, especially once you get used to a particular place, the creepiness effect wares off and it mostly seems rather mundane.
     
  9. Aug 18, 2011 #8

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    Unexplained phenomenon are by definition unexplained. They absolutely are not evidence for the paranormal. Science works like this:
    • Observe a phenomenon
    • Hypothesise an explanation that is consistent with current science
    • Design an appropriate experiment
    • Either accept or reject the hypothesis
    All proper scientific studies of the paranormal have shown the phenomenon to either be natural or unexplained (and mostly the former). There is no known method by which any paranormal phenomenon could occur and TV shows are not evidence for anything. They have a specific demographic to entertain and thus will do whatever they can (lie, act, distort the truth) to sell the program.
     
  10. Aug 18, 2011 #9

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    The concept of a ghost makes for a great movie plot. I love ghost/supernatural/scary movies. 501d5f190b7c2c661fe228da26687c62.gif They're my favorite. Especially with popcorn, if you've got it.

    But I don't take it much farther than that.
     
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  11. Aug 18, 2011 #10
    What I don't get is how people like Anne Germaine can know the details of your life. It's true that I've only seen on TV, but she spoken with so many people in 1 show that it'd have to be a big lie for that to be fake. She looks like the typical scam artist, but if she's a scammer I don't see how she does it...
    It'd be cool if Houdini was here today to try finding it out...
     
  12. Aug 18, 2011 #11

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    Things like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_reading" [Broken] and other tricks. I can't find a link now but earlier this year I saw a documentary on megachurch scams. They would do things like get everyone to fill out a prayer card for their problem, then these would be read and cross checked with tickets. The preacher would do his usual "praise jesus" stuff and then pick a 'random' member of the audience. He would proceed to be filled with the voice of God and know everything about this person, then he'd cure their disease or w/e it was. In reality he had an earpiece and people were reading him information.

    http://www.randi.org/site/" has done a lot of work into this. Remember that "miraculous" feats are not evidence of the miraculous, they are evidence of the appearance of miracles. The explanation for this is always trickery.
     
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  13. Aug 18, 2011 #12

    lisab

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    I don't believe in the supernatural, period.
     
  14. Aug 18, 2011 #13
    :frown: You don't believe in me? :cry:

    I have always thought that the perception of ghosts may have something to do with the brain's interpretation of "energy waves" which may be similar to brainwaves or something but alas... I have no evidence or proof of this, it is just something I ponder.
     
  15. Aug 18, 2011 #14

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    Is this sarcasm? If so lol, if not it makes no sense. I know that this is GD but this thread is pretty foolish...
     
  16. Aug 18, 2011 #15
    I was definitely not being sarcastic, and I have no proof of it so it may not make any sense...and who are you to judge me?







    I guess I am being facetious after all -_- sorry. I blame the History Channel for filling my mind with things to ponder. "God on the Brain."
     
  17. Aug 18, 2011 #16

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    As I have understood it "supernatural" is basically anything that is as yet not explained by empirical science.
    If we find a phenomenon that is reproducible and measurable, we'll just incorporate it into our physical laws of nature.
    So yes, I do believe in the supernatural since I do not believe we have discovered all the laws of nature yet. :)
     
  18. Aug 18, 2011 #17

    lisab

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    Ah, I was using the word to mean, "Of or relating to existence outside the natural world", so it would not be measurable. Alternatively, "make-believe".
     
  19. Aug 18, 2011 #18

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    Isn't that just an interpretation?
    We cannot know for sure if a "supernatural" phenomenon is outside the natural world.
    We can only believe that it is.

    Btw, I do believe in "make-believe".
    I do it all the time!
    I call it daydreaming. :wink:
     
  20. Aug 18, 2011 #19
    I would have voted if there were a third option: I don't care.
     
  21. Aug 18, 2011 #20

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    That's not how brainwaves work. A brainwave is the rhythmic coordinated firing of a network of neurons. There isn't actually a "wave" to speak of. There is no propagation of a brainwave through a medium. It's more like turning the dimmer switch on a light from on to off over and over.
     
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