What exactly is greed?

1. Aug 5, 2008

Jordan Joab

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greed

7. Aug 6, 2008

stickythighs

Re: Greed

I remember that baseball players with multi-million dollar incomes went on strike in 1994 because they weren't getting paid enough. Well, boo hoo hoo. Someone else can get out the violen, but I won't be playing it.

8. Aug 6, 2008

Jimmy Snyder

Re: Greed

Greed is a terrible thing. We started out with a single 25" cathode-ray TV in the den. This was used by my wife for watching the Mom Channel except when my kids wanted to watch "The Lion King" for the 500th time so we slipped the tape in. I felt this was unfair, so I insisted we get another TV for me to watch the Dad Channel. I would have been satisfied with 25", but my wife said that as ruler of the house, I should have a bigger screen, so we got a 31". This didn't work out as I had hoped because as my kids got older, they wanted to watch the Daughter Channel and the Son Channel. So I got two more TV's for the kids, a 35" for her and 51" for him. Then "Monk" became popular. Everyone was divided on whether to watch their favorite channel, or Monk. So we bought a 102" tv for the living room. This almost worked, but for the fact that when walking from the den to the living room, there was a blind spot where we couldn't see any TV at all. That's when I got a flat panel TV for every wall in the house. This seemed to satisfy all needs except for my daughter's boyfriend. When he came over, none of the TV's was set to the Boyfriend Channel, so I got a few more TVs for him. Some of these are on the ceiling or on cabinet shelves. I got some TVs for the basement, attic, closets, garage and just to be safe, one more for the den. I got a few more still in boxes in case company comes over. Do you think I'm too greedy?

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9. Aug 6, 2008

rootX

Re: Greed

I think you are a liar (it is hard believe everything that's in bold) which is another terrible thing. And how's the boyfriend channel is different from the son channel?

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10. Aug 6, 2008

Jimmy Snyder

Re: Greed

Oh yeah? Well what about the Lion King 500 times thing?

11. Aug 6, 2008

Re: Greed

Dont' be jealous of someone who makes $50 million, be jealous of the one who pays it out. Better yet, be jealous of Bill Gates and be done with it. 12. Aug 6, 2008 rootX Re: Greed If a kid start watching Lion King at age of 0-0.5 and keep on watching it to 4-5...500 seems pretty reasonable estimate. I was hoping to see something real and reasonable :shy: there when I started reading.. and so it looked pretty crazy when I reached the bold part! 13. Aug 6, 2008 rootX Re: Greed This is greed ... http://ghostoftj.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/20060924-new-4-greed.jpg Last edited by a moderator: Apr 23, 2017 14. Aug 6, 2008 WarPhalange Re: Greed That's not greed. I'm sure he's letting them eat cake. 15. Aug 6, 2008 JasonRox Re: Greed What about the Girlfriend Channel you *******!? 16. Aug 6, 2008 lisab Staff Emeritus Re: Greed That's what makes jimmysnyder's posts so hillarious....he can smoothly transition from real and reasonable to whacky and you don't realize you're in whacky until the end . 17. Aug 6, 2008 JasonRox Re: Greed Those kinds of posts happen all the time in other forums. Lots of the them make me laugh! 18. Aug 6, 2008 Jimmy Snyder Re: Greed Flattery will get you everywhere. Here is one who really knows what he is doing: http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer-new2?id=TwaPoli.sgm&images=images/modeng&data=/texts/english/modeng/parsed&tag=public&part=1&division=div1" [Broken] Last edited by a moderator: May 3, 2017 19. Aug 6, 2008 neu Re: Greed There's only so much wealth in the world. If person X earns$1,000,000 a year then what they earn over the average income has to be compensated by other poeple's income.

No-one needs $1,000,000 per year, it is surplus to requirement. The lifestyle it breeds is surplus to requirement. It is greed. If you think it isn't greedy to earn$1,000,000 a year then you need to reassess what you think a person's needs actually are.

I read an article by Poly Toynbee on the delusions of the high earners w.r.t the average income and lifestyle. It's incredible the ignorance that such sucessful people can posses to try and justify their exuberant lifestyle.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2008/aug/04/workandcareers.executivesalaries

In britain we have a situation where the top 10% of earners are taxed less than the bottom 10%. You can argue that is situation has arisen to try and lure big buisness to this country to benefit the economy. But then you have to ask, why do fat cats demand to pay less tax than the cleaners they employ?

To think I felt flashy buying a smoothie that wasn't in the reduced section of the supermarket the other day.

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20. Aug 6, 2008

mheslep

Re: Greed

Jimmy Snyder's TV budget is closing in on \$1M. Absent these devices he risks marital and family disaster. Frankly, I think we need some ear marks in the federal budget to support him for the good of us all, as he's now too big to fail.

21. Aug 6, 2008

Jimmy Snyder

Re: Greed

Isn't that surplus to requirement?

22. Aug 6, 2008

Crosson

Re: Greed

Thank you for sharing that well written and informative article. I think that ignorant, rich, greedy people are the worse problem with the world today. The unexamined life is not worth living, and the unexamined greedy life is a liability for society that should be immediately terminated.

I like to live simply, and the computer/internet is my biggest 'optional' expense. When my (cheap) computer breaks and I can't do computational research or read journal articles, this is the main time when I curse the greedy people in society who buy a laptop for each of their kids, not so that they can learn, but so that the kid will keep busy posting text-speak to some myspace page. In a society that did not have it's head up it's arse, anyone who can pass an exam on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_Computer_Programming" [Broken] should always have at least minimally functional hardware long before the myspace kids have any!

I go shopping for non-food only a few times a year, but I know that many of my fellow Americans go shopping as an activity. They get cheap thrills from selecting merchandise at walmart, then they bring it home and put it in the closet 15 minutes later because it's just crap that they didn't need.

The problem is that entrepreneurs make too much crap that people don't need, and then use a portion of the profits to employer marketers to convince the consumers that they need the crap. I will try to illustrate this 'cycle of crap' in the economy by the following diagram, which is a heirarchy according to the cost of production:

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Luxury Goods that are actually worth making e.g.
automobiles, electronics, etc

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Crap that no one needs
if the TV didn't tell them
to have it

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Base goods, food, clothing, etc

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My contention is that the greedy capitalists are destroying society by putting to many resources into crap, because all they care about is making a profit. I think that advertising should be illegal, since this is the reason that people by crap they don't need. If there were no advertising, then entrepreneurs would have to resort to making things that people want intrinsically, which shockingly might be 'nothing' for certain people at certain times.

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23. Aug 6, 2008

Jordan Joab

Re: Greed

Self-control.

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24. Aug 6, 2008

Crosson

Re: Greed

Too brief.

25. Aug 6, 2008

neu

Re: Greed

That's why I felt flashy.

When using the phase "surplus to requirement" I mean surplus to what is necessary for comfortable living. A rich person will think that they need an income of above £100k to sustain a comfortable living, they are deluded.