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What is a Chiron?

  1. Sep 6, 2004 #1

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    What is a "Chiron?"

    What is a "Chiron?"
     
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    Euuh, perhaps i am having some language-problems but what exactly do you mean by this chiron ??? Where did you read this and it what context was this thing used ???

    Is it a QFT-thing or are you just referring to chirality-related subjects ???


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  4. Sep 6, 2004 #3
    Eeeuh, in astronomy you have this object called 2060 Chiron that has an orbit in the outer solar system, positioned between the orbits of Saturn and Uranus. The radius is about 85 km

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  5. Sep 6, 2004 #4

    In Greek mythology a chiron was a centaur, but I don't think this is what you were refering to... :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

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  6. Sep 6, 2004 #5

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    Hi marlon,
    you have reminded me, Chiron was the name of a particular centaur who was the teacher of somebody famous IIRC. You could say that Chiron was a "mentor centaur"-----most centaurs were wild and unruly, I think, but there were a few helpful and polite ones like him.

    You asked about Centauro events in another thread. I found this

    http://www.cerncourier.com/main/article/39/1/16/1

    and this

    http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/CentauroEvent.html
     
  7. Sep 6, 2004 #6
    Thanks, marcus for the explanation of these centauro events. did not know about them...

    Mk, where you at ???? Please we are all waiting in suspense for you to come out and refrase your question, sir...


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    marlon, king of all chirons...
     
  8. Sep 6, 2004 #7

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    Chiron was the only centaur to have the gift of immortality

    http://edweb.sdsu.edu/people/bdodge/scaffold/GG/centaur.html

    He was the tutor, or coach, of Achilles (probably a horse could give us useful suggestions about running, if he could talk)

    the other centaurs liked to drink and often got into fights when they were drunk

    one time, when there was a fight, Chiron was standing to one side (he stayed out of stupid fights) but he was hurt by accident

    after this, he made a bargain with the gods by which he would give up his immortality, and accept death, if the gods would release Prometheus.
    The gods had been punishing Prometheus for stealing fire from them and so, by Chiron's generosity, the punishment was stopped and Prometheus was again free.
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    A Centauro event MIGHT be produced by an exploding miniature black hole.
    But there might also be other explanations.

    AFAIK Centauro event is seen in high altitude emulsion experiments when there is suddenly an explosion of hadrons at some level in the atmosphere but ABOVE that level there is unexpectedly little activity-----little or no photons from decay of previous particles higher up.

    so how did this powerful thing "sneak in" causing so little previous disturbance higher in the atmosphere, and then explode into a lot of hadrons.

    apparently at CERN they looked for some Centauro-like events but didnt find any
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    this leaves me unsatisfied, with questions like
    What other explanations besides mini-black hole are possible?
    Why is it called Centauro?
     
  9. Sep 6, 2004 #8
    Marlon : we definitely must quit QCD. Remember the colored photon thing !? Well just as you said in your first post, I was also imagining this would deal with some kind of chiral excitation of the glue (for instance). We are geeks. :frown:

    I am not sure the material here is is related to the initial question, but you provided really interesting stuff. Thanks for the infos !
     
  10. Sep 7, 2004 #9

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    Well, I learned a lot from other uses of the word. :biggrin:


    OK, http://arxiv.org/abs/http://www.arx.../hep-ph/0311318 it was there, and https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=41878 there.

    Centauro events, someone mentioned that before in this thread, that probably pertains to this.

    Heh, sorry for giving you a hard time. :biggrin:
     
  11. Sep 7, 2004 #10

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    That was it, but what does that have to do with Chirons?

    AFAIK is what? Afact?
     
  12. Sep 7, 2004 #11

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    As Far As I Know ...

    BTW, Chiron is a Centaur (as in asteroid/comet/solar system body)
     
  13. Sep 7, 2004 #12

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    As it seems chirons are indeed centauro-events. Your references truely learned us that....


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  15. Sep 8, 2004 #14

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    ohh yes? than could someone provide more info on centauro events?
     
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