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What is ''faithful measurement'' in Quantum Mechanics exactly. I have seen this expression in Kochen-Specker Theorem.

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What is ''faithful measurement'' in Quantum Mechanics exactly. I have seen this expression in Kochen-Specker Theorem.

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To quote wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kochen–Specker_theorem:

Since KS argues against hidden values and hidden values are not how most physicists interpret QM, it's probably not correct to say that "faithful measurement" is part of QM - only as part of the study of QM.

In this case "subquantum element" is a supposed "hidden value".For such more general theories the KS theorem is applicable only if the measurement is assumed to be a faithful one, in the sense that there is adeterministicrelation between a subquantum element of physical reality and the value of the observable found on measurement.

Since KS argues against hidden values and hidden values are not how most physicists interpret QM, it's probably not correct to say that "faithful measurement" is part of QM - only as part of the study of QM.

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To quote wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kochen–Specker_theorem:

In this case "subquantum element" is a supposed "hidden value".

thanks for your reply. but again I cannot understand the exact definition of faithful measurement :/

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