What is the failure of superposition in quantum mechanics?

In summary, the book "Electricity and Magnetism" by Edward M. Purcell and David J. Morin discusses quantum phenomena in the electromagnetic field that demonstrates a failure of superposition from the perspective of classical theory. This is evident in the photoelectric effect, photon antibunching, and point detection of photons. While the classical theory of light allows for the addition of individual sources to create a total field, quantum mechanics shows that this superposition principle does not always hold true.
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In a book it says that "we know of quantum phenomena in the electromagnetic field that represents a failure of superposition,seen from the viewpoint of the classical theory."
I want to about what quantum phenomena is he talking about?

This was from the page 11 of the book Electricity And Magnetism by Edward M.Purcell and David J.Morin (3rd edition)
 
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Hawkingo said:
In a book it says that "we know of quantum phenomena in the electromagnetic field that represents a failure of superposition,seen from the viewpoint of the classical theory."
I want to about what quantum phenomena is he talking about?
You will get better answers if you tell us what book.
 
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Hawkingo said:
In a book it says ...
is not a sufficient citation here on PF. Best to cite a specific book since pop-science books and ACTUAL science books are considered differently.

EDIT: I see nugatory beat me to it :smile:
 
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Nugatory said:
You will get better answers if you tell us what book.
This was from the page 11 of the book Electricity And Magnetism by Edward M.Purcell and David J.Morin (3rd edition)
 
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phinds said:
is not a sufficient citation here on PF. Best to cite a specific book since pop-science books and ACTUAL science books are considered differently.
This was from the page 11 of the book Electricity And Magnetism by Edward M.Purcell and David J.Morin (3rd edition)
 
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First of all, there are two different notions of linearity (or superposition) involved in quantum mechanics: at the level of states, and at the level of fields.

In quantum field theory, you have a field ##\psi## (such as the electromagnetic field, or the electron field, or the Higgs field, etc.). This field (in the Heisenberg picture) obeys Heisenberg equations of motion, which looks a lot like the classical equations for fields. For example, a free spin-zero field obeys the EOM:

##(\frac{\partial^2}{\partial t^2} - \nabla^2) \psi = -m^2 \psi##

(You have to stick in ##c## and ##\hbar## in various places to make the units work out.)

This is a linear equation of motion, in the sense that if ##\psi_1## and ##\psi_2## are two solutions, then so is the superpostion, ##\psi_1 + \psi_2##.

If there is a self-interaction, then this leads to a more complicated equation of motion, maybe something like:

##(\frac{\partial^2}{\partial t^2} - \nabla^2) \psi = -m^2 \psi -\lambda \psi^3##

This equation of motion is nonlinear, and does not obey the superposition principle.

Now, there is also a quantum-mechanical notion of state, ##|\Psi\rangle##. In the Schrodinger picture, the state also obeys an equation of motion, something along the lines of:

##H |\Psi\rangle = i \frac{\partial}{\partial t} |\Psi\rangle##

where ##H## involves field operators such as ##\psi## above.

The Rules of Quantum Mechanics require that the equation of motion for the state is always linear, but the equations of motions for fields is not necessarily linear.

So in the case of electromagnetism, the issue is whether the equation of motion for the field are linear, or not. Classically, in the absence of charges, the electromagnetic field obeys linear equation of motion. That means that the electromagnetic field has no self-interaction.

Quantum-mechanically, it's a little more complicated. In the perturbation expansion for the electromagnetic field, there are Feynman diagrams that involve indirect interactions between two photons. The diagram can be loosely described as: "one photon produces a virtual electron-positron pair, and then the electron or positron interacts with the other photon before annihilating into a photon again". Looking at just one such diagram, there appears to be a photon-photon interaction. I am not an expert at quantum electrodynamics enough to say whether this is a real effect. Each diagram has no actual physical meaning, but only represents one term in an infinite sum describing the interaction. I don't know whether the apparent interaction persists when you sum the diagrams, or not.

But assuming that it does, then that means that light can interact with light, and such a self-interaction means that the superposition principle doesn't hold precisely (for fields).
 
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Hawkingo said:
In a book it says that "we know of quantum phenomena in the electromagnetic field that do represents a failure of superposition, seen from the viewpoint of the classical theory."
I want to about what quantum phenomena is he talking about?
[Note that I've corrected the wording to exactly what appears in the text]

The superposition that Purcell and Morin are referring to is not quantum superposition, but the property of classical electromagnetic fields that allows them to be added: the total field is the sum of the contributions from the individual sources.
It's not clear what phenomena they had in mind (the quoted text is something of a throwaway line, a digression for the purposes of that textbook, and clearly not something intended rigorously) but the photoelectric effect, photon antibunching, and point detection of photons could reasonably be considered failures of superposition, seen from the viewpoint of the classical theory.
 
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Hawkingo said:
In a book it says that "we know of quantum phenomena in the electromagnetic field that represents a failure of superposition,seen from the viewpoint of the classical theory."
I want to about what quantum phenomena is he talking about?

This was from the page 11 of the book Electricity And Magnetism by Edward M.Purcell and David J.Morin (3rd edition)

As Nugatory stated this is not about quantum superposition of states, but the superposition of classical electromagnetic fields.

Do note that even in the classical theory you can find cases where a superposition of solutions of the Maxwell's equations (in a medium) is not a solution itself, see non-linear optics.

Remaining within a classical framework, we can include some quantum effects via non-linear corrections to the Maxwell's equations. There you can find effects that don't exist in the classical theory, my favorite is

https://arxiv.org/abs/1101.3433
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1019748524213
 
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One more example for the prejudice against Purcell's textbook (I suppose it's the infamous vol. 2 of the Berkeley physics course): It's of course usually half correct but expresses things in a way that tends to confuse students. Even worse, it buries the beauty of relativistic physics under confusing notation and under well-meaning "didactics" :-(.
 
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1. What is the principle of superposition in quantum mechanics?

The principle of superposition in quantum mechanics states that a quantum system can exist in multiple states or positions simultaneously until it is observed or measured. This means that particles can exist in multiple places at the same time, and their exact location cannot be determined until they are observed.

2. How does superposition lead to the failure of classical mechanics?

In classical mechanics, objects are described as having definite positions and properties at all times. However, in quantum mechanics, the principle of superposition allows particles to exist in multiple states at once, which is not accounted for in classical mechanics. This leads to the failure of classical mechanics in describing the behavior of particles at the quantum level.

3. What is the significance of superposition in quantum computing?

Superposition is a key principle in quantum computing, as it allows quantum bits (qubits) to exist in multiple states at the same time. This allows for exponentially more calculations to be performed simultaneously, making quantum computers much more powerful than classical computers.

4. Can the principle of superposition be observed in everyday life?

No, the principle of superposition can only be observed at the quantum level. At larger scales, objects behave according to classical mechanics and do not exhibit superposition.

5. How does the concept of superposition relate to the famous Schrödinger's cat thought experiment?

In Schrödinger's cat thought experiment, a cat in a sealed box is both alive and dead until the box is opened and the cat's state is observed. This is a metaphor for the principle of superposition, where a particle can exist in multiple states until it is observed. The thought experiment highlights the counterintuitive nature of quantum mechanics and the role of observation in determining the state of a system.

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