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I'd be interested in seeing what your career is and your IQ. I'd also like your general thoughts on IQ and engineering, and do you think you need an IQ of 120 + to become a successful engineer?

Also this IQ test, which I'm sure doesn't have too much validity to it, but it's fun!

http://www.iq-test.com/free-iq-test/

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Evo
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First, very few people have actually been administered IQ tests, the online games are not IQ tests and they do not count. IQ is not a predictor of how well someone will function in a particular field. You do know that the different types of engineers vary greatly?

phinds
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High enough to know that that is a fairly useless question. Scoring high on an IQ test basically shows that you have the kind of mind that scores high on an IQ test, not anything else.

IQ tests are primarily of use to therapists to categorize the mrdd population.

I don't believe IQ scores correlate well with imagination, creativity, etc. and STEM people shouldn't use them to compare each other.

$\pm\infty$ of course. What kind of low IQ question is that?

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lisab
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I'd be interested in seeing what your career is and your IQ. I'd also like your general thoughts on IQ and engineering, and do you think you need an IQ of 120 + to become a successful engineer?

Also this IQ test, which I'm sure doesn't have too much validity to it, but it's fun!

http://www.iq-test.com/free-iq-test/
Last week I went to a job test in which I had to take an IQ& Critical thinking skill test. The IQ test included math reasoning skills. It was very hard. Your link to IQ test displays all completely easy problems. The CT test I took included reading and judging skills. I read a long statement and was given multiple choices and asked to pick up the one that was sufficient or insufficient to perform some action said in the statement. The only thing that annoyed me was that the receptionist who collected my paper and scanned my replies in the tests laughed at me for my bad scores. 30 min to work with 25 iq hard iq & 25 long ct questions.

This site has a chart across professions but as you can its not very informative

http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/occupations.aspx
It looks like medical doctors are smarter than engineers. In fact, medical doctors are smarter than everyone.

phinds
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It looks like medical doctors are smarter than engineers. In fact, medical doctors are smarter than everyone.
Yes, but that's only if you ask THEM.

Yes, but that's only if you ask THEM.
You're right! If you scroll down and read the fine print it says, "This site sponsored by the American Medical Association."

OmCheeto
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I have an IQ of 161*, and I don't see rocket scientist on the list. I must be a closet rocket scientist.

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* I know this for a fact. On my last science forum was a member who I considered just a tiny bit smarter than I. One day I asked him what his IQ was. He said 162.

jhae2.718
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15,747,724,136,275,002,577,605,653,961,181,555,468,044,717,914,527,116,709,366,231,425,076,185,631,031,296

Bandersnatch
In fact, medical doctors are smarter than everyone.
I don't see rocket scientist on the list.

Curious3141
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I've done brain surgery (neurosurgery). Believe me, it's not brain surgery. :tongue:

I like Evo's cute little muddled metaphor "rocket surgery". Always makes me laugh.

ZapperZ
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This is a basic fact. I have been a member of the American Physical Society, and also have participated in survey done by the American Institute of Physics. In all those years, the AIP have survey a lot of things (one can look at the statistics report at the AIP page). However, there has NEVER, EVER been a survey or a question asking for IQ scores or number.

Now, this is purely a guess, but I tend to expect that other professional organizations (engineering, etc.) also may not have ever surveyed the IQs of their members. This brings me to two conclusions:

1. Whatever this IQ score is, it is of no relevance, or of little importance, to such professions. So why do we give even a second of our time on this?

2. Any reports comparing IQs of different professions may be based on faulty, non-representative data. After all, if these organizations that represents these professions do not have such data, just how many were used in the survey to arrive at any conclusion?

Zz.

Pythagorean
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85

(much like my intellectual height, the above message was too short)

lisab
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85

(much like my intellectual height, the above message was too short)
:rofl:

No worries, Pyth, even a super genius would not meet the minimum character requirement .

Curious3141
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2. Any reports comparing IQs of different professions may be based on faulty, non-representative data. After all, if these organizations that represents these professions do not have such data, just how many were used in the survey to arrive at any conclusion?

Zz.
It's not just the raw numbers. The sampling method also makes a huge difference, although I suspect you already know this.

Population-based surveys purporting to study IQ are fraught with major methodological issues that often invalidate or at least, greatly weaken, the results arising from them. It's a great pity that these deeply flawed studies have been used, and continue to be used, as a "scientific" basis for racial discrimination.

OmCheeto
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:thumbs: :rofl:

A couple of things about the list:
1. Where is bouncer? Isn't the smartest man in the world a bouncer? I think bouncers should be surveyed.
2. What is it about running Fire Sales that takes so much brains?

I've actually never been to a fire sale. Has anyone ever been to a fire sale? Did the salesperson seem smart? I suppose they'd have to be smart, to talk people into buying goods that are burned, or smell funny.

turbo
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Bouncers definitely need to be surveyed. If you want to measure their intelligence, see if they took their job before getting a run-down on the drinks. Women can be trouble if they have been pounding down Allen's coffee brandy (a favorite around here), but that's nothing compared to a 200# man who has been drinking rum and Coke all night. I hosted a lot of open-mike jams at a place with a reputation for roughness, and the new owner replaced the Coke barrels with a version that was free of sugar and caffeine. He said it cut down on discipline problems.

drizzle
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Lol Pyth :rofl:

:rofl:

No worries, Pyth, even a super genius would not meet the minimum character requirement .

+1

Not enough man... Not enough