jedishrfu said:What do you think and why?
Mister T said:What will happen when a large amount of water at 0 C is mixed with ice at - 10 C?
Joe brewer said:The same thing except it would equilibrate at a higher temp (still below zero). Probably less ice formed as well. Am I on the right track here?
Edit: or if there is enough ice, All of the water would turn to ice in both cases because all the water has to decrease in temperature.
0C is when any amount of water and ice would be at equilibrium.
What would happen if the intermediate temperature happened to be - 10 degrees. How would it know to stop at - 10 degrees? You just told us that if you have ice at - 10 degrees in water at 0 degrees, the ice would heat up and more ice would form, and the ice would reach another intermediate temperature somewhere between -10 and 0. What if the new intermediate temperature happened to be - 5 degrees. How would it know to stop at - 5 degrees?Joe brewer said:Yep! Basically as long as the ice is below zero, equilibrium will be at an intermediate temperature and will have x amount of additional ice.
No. There would be ice and water left in the end, but the final temperature would be ?Joe brewer said:So it would all turn to ice no matter what?
Well, I was thinking somewhere between zero and the temp of the ice. Would it always be zero but the amount of ice would just increase? That's the only way I can think of that allows any water to be left over.Chestermiller said:No. There would be ice and water left in the end, but the final temperature would be ?
Joe brewer said:Well, I was thinking somewhere between zero and the temp of the ice. Would it always be zero but the amount of ice would just increase? That's the only way I can think of that allows any water to be left over.
Why do you feel this way? If you had ice floating in ice water inside an insulated container at 0C, do you feel like all the water would turn to ice. Where would all the heat given off when the water turned to ice go to? You are aware that, in order for water to turn to ice at 0 C, you need to remove the heat of freezing, correct?Joe brewer said:Well, I was thinking somewhere between zero and the temp of the ice. Would it always be zero but the amount of ice would just increase? That's the only way I can think of that allows any water to be left over.
What recrystallization? After step 4, you have ice at 0 C sitting in a pool of ice water at 0 C. Game over. Nothing more happens. The system is now at equilibrium. To get more water to freeze, you would have to physically remove heat from the system.Joe brewer said:Let me walk you through what I'm thinking
1.ice is added
2.water gives up heat to ice, heating it up and turning into ice (still at 0c)
3.this continues until all the ice(old and new) is at 0c
4.water is still at 0c
On another note, Is this how (re) crystallization works?
When a large amount of water at 0C is heated, it will start to absorb heat energy and its temperature will increase. As the temperature of the water rises above 0C, it will begin to turn into liquid and eventually reach its boiling point of 100C.
Yes, if the water is left in a cold environment, its temperature will continue to decrease until it reaches 0C. At this point, the water will start to freeze and turn into ice. The freezing point of water is 0C.
As the temperature of water at 0C is heated, its density decreases. This is because the water molecules start to gain energy and move further apart, making the water less compact. This is why ice floats on top of liquid water, as it has a lower density than liquid water.
No, water at 0C cannot exist in a liquid state. It will either be frozen into ice or turned into vapor as it reaches its boiling point. The only way for water to exist in a liquid state at 0C is if it is under high pressure, such as in deep ocean environments.
If a large amount of water at 0C is mixed with a large amount of water at 100C, the resulting temperature will be somewhere in between the two temperatures. The final temperature will depend on the amount of water at each temperature and their specific heat capacities. This process is known as thermal equilibrium, where heat energy is transferred until the temperatures of the two substances are equal.