What would a universe look like if it had 2 time dimensions?

In summary, the conversation discusses the potential consequences of having two time dimensions in our universe, including the possibility of closed timelike curves and the concept of entropy. While it is possible to mathematically describe relativity with two time coordinates, there is no evidence or need for it in physics. Speculation about multiple dimensions in the universe is not only interesting, but also a result of calculations in string theory. However, the concept of time and its direction in relation to entropy remains a mystery.
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We live in a world with 3 space dimension and 1 time dimension, and i saw a video how a universe would look like is their where n-space dimension but what would happen if their where 2 time dimensions?
 
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If there were two time dimensions, and our experience only recognizes only one time dimension, all objects' time trajectories would either be completely overlapping or completely non-intersecting with one another. Otherwise, we would see objects popping in and out of existence when their time trajectory overlapped with our own.
One might imagine this as a sci-fi pretext for parallel universes, but really, this is speculation in the extreme.
No physics I am aware of requires two time dimensions.
Though it would be possible from a purely mathematical standpoint to do relativity with two time coordinates. I don't think anything sensible or worthwhile comes from it.
 
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I think you already know the answer. Causality requires only one time dimension. How the universe "would" look like if there were n spatial dimensions is incorrect. You mean how the universe looks like with n dimensions. The universe already has more than 4 dimensions according to string theory. Not because it is an interesting question to imagine a n-dimensional world, but because the dimension of spacetime falls out of a calculation. It's not a free parameter. Either 8 or 24 for massless fields, that is 10 or 26 for fermions. This is what you get from requiring Lorentz invariance of the string.
 
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Mathijsgri said:
We live in a world with 3 space dimension and 1 time dimension, and i saw a video how a universe would look like is their where n-space dimension but what would happen if their where 2 time dimensions?
In 2 time dimensions there would be no causality. You could have closed timelike curves in flat spacetime. I don't know how anything we know would work.
 
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One could probably write a science fiction book on the subject, or maybe a series.

I don't think we completely understand the arrow of time, but let's just say it is locally pointed in the direction of increasing entropy. In our universe, this is in the direction of increasing time. The arrow of time doesn't necessarily have to point in the direction of time, but for whatever reason, our cosmology is such that everything is homogeneous and isotropic in the space directions, but very different along the time direction. Maybe there's a reason, but I don't know. If there are two time dimensions, entropy might increase in one time direction but be constant along the other. In which case, time would flow like it does in our universe, but the geometry of space-time would be different. Or entropy might increase in both directions like the radius of a circle: ##S = f(\sqrt{t_1^2 + t_2^2})##. In which case, time would appear to flow "outward" from the center of time, which would be a special point like the Big Bang.

If the arrow of time is given by gradient of entropy, then there are no closed arrowtime-like curves. Closed coordinatetime-curves aren't really a big deal for causality.
 
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Khashishi said:
One could probably write a science fiction book on the subject, or maybe a series.
I think this is a good place to close the thread.
 

1. What is a universe with 2 time dimensions?

A universe with 2 time dimensions is a hypothetical concept in physics where time is not limited to a single dimension, but instead has two separate dimensions that are independent of each other. This idea has been explored in various theories such as string theory and loop quantum gravity.

2. How would a universe with 2 time dimensions differ from our current universe?

A universe with 2 time dimensions would have fundamentally different properties and behaviors compared to our current universe. For example, it may have different laws of physics, different concepts of time, and the possibility of time travel in both directions.

3. Can we observe or prove the existence of a universe with 2 time dimensions?

Currently, there is no empirical evidence or observations that support the existence of a universe with 2 time dimensions. It is a theoretical concept that is still being explored and studied by scientists. Therefore, we cannot definitively prove its existence at this time.

4. What are the implications of a universe with 2 time dimensions for our understanding of time and the universe?

If a universe with 2 time dimensions were to exist, it would challenge our current understanding of time and the universe. It would require a significant shift in our understanding of fundamental principles and could potentially lead to new discoveries and breakthroughs in physics.

5. Is a universe with 2 time dimensions possible?

There is currently no consensus among scientists on whether a universe with 2 time dimensions is possible. Some theories and models suggest its existence, while others argue against it. Further research and experimentation are needed to fully understand the feasibility and implications of such a universe.

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