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What would you do for no pay?

  1. Farming

    24.3%
  2. Carpentry/Construction

    27.0%
  3. Hunting

    29.7%
  4. Education/Child care

    43.2%
  5. Cleaning

    10.8%
  6. Health Care

    21.6%
  7. Elder Care

    10.8%
  8. Seamstress (or other clothing-oriented occupation)

    5.4%
  9. Other (specifiy in response)

    43.2%
  10. Nothing. I want my MTV.

    2.7%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Oct 17, 2005 #1
    On the "what is wrong with capitalism" thread in PWA, some contributors suggest that in a communist/anarchist/socialist/whateverist society, no one would work because they wouldn't need to. The argument says something like: everyone would lie around all day and let the state take care of them.

    I'm curious if you would work (ie contribute to the common good) for no pay, if that work was something you enjoyed doing. Would you enjoy building houses if it was just for the sake of providing shelter? Cooking? Cleaning?

    Take the poll. Apologies in advance for the options I forgot. mention them in your responses.

    Public poll, multiple responses allowed. Yo mamma, some people are *so* impatient.
     
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2005
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  3. Oct 17, 2005 #2

    JamesU

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    what poll...?
     
  4. Oct 17, 2005 #3

    cronxeh

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    Well since I'm fascinated head-over-heels with Biology, I'd probably do farming and maybe if I'm an MD then I'd be a physician too. I think as technology becomes more and more advanced, we'd be able to move to such society and eliminate the need to work 40 hours a week. Perhaps we'd be able to slow down and just enjoy life's simple pleasures in the future, but that outlook is too optimistic considering our society :frown:
     
  5. Oct 17, 2005 #4

    Gokul43201

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    It's people working 40 (or more) hours a week that makes technology "more and more advanced".
     
  6. Oct 17, 2005 #5

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    I voted "other". I have a number of hobbies I'd pursue, such as golf, astrophotography, skydiving, skiing, sailing, and flying.
     
  7. Oct 17, 2005 #6
    I don't really know if I'd enjoy many of those because I've never been exposed to them. Nothing there except hunting strikes me as terribly unpleasant, however, and I'd hunt if it were absolutely necessary (ie, to control populations until a different measure can be put in place).
     
  8. Oct 17, 2005 #7
    In case it wasn't clear, I tried to identify the basic *needs* that a society would need to meet --- Shelter, clothing, food, etc.
     
  9. Oct 17, 2005 #8
    I checked Education/Child Care, Healthcare, and Other.
    Under other I would persue artistic endevours and writing.
     
  10. Oct 17, 2005 #9
    Other = Software programming :smile:
     
  11. Oct 17, 2005 #10

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    I agree completely. But as Gokul pointed it out, we are not yet ready for that. I dont think we will be in my lifetime anyway
     
  12. Oct 17, 2005 #11

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    Well, some amount of farming, carpentry/construction, education, health care, and cleaning I've already done for no pay, along with artistic/writing pursuits (although it seems to go without saying to me that most people who do these do them for no pay). I would not be willing to do any of these things full-time for no pay, however. I would gladly build and maintain my own home, and probably write full time given a communist paradise (assuming they allow writers who don't contribute to any state interest).

    Actually, I'd be willing to run workshops for people learning to write as well, but again, not full-time.
     
  13. Oct 17, 2005 #12

    Pengwuino

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    Hmm... living in a world with only basic needs? BORING.
     
  14. Oct 17, 2005 #13
    :rofl: :rofl: Finally proof that Russ understanding of english doesn't include "contribute to the common good".
     
  15. Oct 17, 2005 #14

    Pengwuino

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    What does that have to do with the english language.
     
  16. Oct 17, 2005 #15
    Patty's understanding of anarcho-socialist thought it rough at best. Most would suggest that any need for which there is a demand in the community could and probably will be met.
     
  17. Oct 17, 2005 #16
    Also the term "no-pay" is not entirely accurate. To generally gloss over it's a matter of the community taking care of you (provide you with shelter, food, sex, drugs and rock and roll) and you contribute to the community (various things mentioned above)
     
  18. Oct 17, 2005 #17
    I don't know. I was going to say vocabulary then I realised that didn't make sense as it was more than one word so I just roughed it.
     
  19. Oct 17, 2005 #18
    Perhaps one could participate in a variety of activities part-time.
     
  20. Oct 17, 2005 #19

    cronxeh

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    Patty I guess it takes special people with a unique mindset and vision to make a utopian society :tongue:
     
  21. Oct 17, 2005 #20
    Always needed :smile:
     
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