What would you do for no pay?

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What community-oriented work would you do for no pay?


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Pengwuino
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Smurf said:
Entirely possible.

Not for a decent society. Society only runs well because people who are good and experienced at something stay at it and only at it.
 
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Ideally "Elder Care" would be an integral part of daily life instead of streamlined.
 
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Pengwuino said:
Not for a decent society. Society only runs well because people who are good and experienced at something stay at it and only at it.

Would you truly wish to devote your entire life to only one type of job? That sounds rather repetitive to me.
 
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Pengwuino said:
I want a ferrari.
Thought not.
Do you have one now?

The problem with criticizing anarcho-socialist theories by saying they can't easily get certain products is that most individuals usually can't get them under this economy either.

I don't see why you can't have one. Depending on the system it'd be entirely likely you could get one just as easily.
 
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Smasherman said:
Would you truly wish to devote your entire life to only one type of job? That sounds rather repetitive to me.

Of course not but how effective would you be if you're juggling 3 different types of jobs? What kinda cook do you think you'd have if on monday he cooks, tuesday he programs software, and wednesday he builds houses?
 
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I would play music for free.

And I'd be more than glad to recieve health-care for free.
 
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Do you have one now?
The problem with criticizing anarcho-socialist theories by saying they can't easily get certain products is that most individuals usually can't get them under this economy either.

Well for one, what kinda society would you be having if you took the actual manhours out of hte system to build luxury cars for every citizen that wanted one? You're trying to compare systems when the original selling point is that by itself, its a great system.
 
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Pengwuino said:
Of course not but how effective would you be if you're juggling 3 different types of jobs? What kinda cook do you think you'd have if on monday he cooks, tuesday he programs software, and wednesday he builds houses?
A cook that also built your house and programmed your OS?

You don't need a lifetime of dedication to learn to cook food pengwuino.
 
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Smasherman said:
Would you truly wish to devote your entire life to only one type of job? That sounds rather repetitive to me.


I think I got it! No way man

I think the best plan would be:

Mandatory FREE education until 21, including bachelors level degree. After that you have a set of options in blocks of 6 months of each! So you get to experience different jobs your whole life, and a total security!

Another option is to continue specializing and getting Masters or PHD - and then you'd have more advanced options like teaching and research and further specialization that you can choose yourself! Its like choosing an outline for your life that you can edit later depending on the most needed positions which would be presented to you as your part of your options list :biggrin:

Oh and I think we should limit our population growth! No more than 2 kids per family!

Call this a fascist state but it will work wonders I think
 
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A cook that also built your house and programmed your OS?

See how rediculous it would be. You can't do 3 jobs and be any good at any of them.
 
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Pengwuino said:
Well for one, what kinda society would you be having if you took the actual manhours out of hte system to build luxury cars for every citizen that wanted one? You're trying to compare systems when the original selling point is that by itself, its a great system.
Who says we'd build a ferari for every dink that wants one?
 
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Pengwuino said:
See how rediculous it would be. You can't do 3 jobs and be any good at any of them.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Nevermind pengwuino... go back to humping rocks.
 
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One could cook in the morning and program during the day. One could undertake a building project for however long needed, doing less cooking and programming as a result. Though perhaps a little less efficient, people could conceivably be happier with a variety of tasks to occupy them. Happier people tend to be more efficient, possibly offsetting the decrease in efficiency from not streamlining.
 
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Smasherman said:
One could cook in the morning and program during the day. One could undertake a building project for however long needed, doing less cooking and programming as a result. Though perhaps a little less efficient, people could conceivably be happier with a variety of tasks to occupy them. Happier people tend to be more efficient, possibly offsetting the decrease in efficiency from not streamlining.

Holy hell are you serious. People's happiness would be horribly offset by the inefficiencies that would grow out of the fact that people barely do anything for any amount of time.
 
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Who says we'd build a ferari for every dink that wants one?

Well its what the community wants....

See, its bull.

I can't believe people think like you.

I Am God.
 
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Pengwuino said:
I Am God.
Pfft. i easily have more worshippers than you.
 
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Perhaps it would be best to perform an experiment involving one group of people who do one job over and over again and another group of people that diversify their jobs.

Colleges look for students who do non-academic things, correct? Why is this? Is it because diverse individuals are more productive?
 
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Smasherman said:
Perhaps it would be best to perform an experiment involving one group of people who do one job over and over again and another group of people that diversify their jobs.

Colleges look for students who do non-academic things, correct? Why is this? Is it because diverse individuals are more productive?

Nah because its a source of cheap labor :devil:
 
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Did you have to lump education and child care together? I love teaching, but hate babysitting. No way in heck I'd offer to take care of anyone's kids but my own. :yuck: I've always said that if I didn't have to work to earn a living, I'd teach.

I don't see anything else on that list that I'd do for free. I got the education I got so I would earn enough to NOT have to do those to earn a living.
 
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I wouldn't of, except I ran out of options.

Cooking isn't even on the list. So child care and education got lumped, probably because my kids are smallish and the two are still basically the same chore.

(well, that, and my college age students are really in need of a grounding from time to time. )
 
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Smurf said:
Patty's understanding of anarcho-socialist thought it rough at best.
Hey now. While I'm not even sure that you've used proper English, I am pretty sure that I've just been insulted.

I told you (or someone else) that I am not a communist. So I may not appreciate the nuances of anarcho-socialism.

But! The main beef I have with the converation in PWA is the idea that "people won't work if they don't have to...." The fact that no one out of 12 respondents *here* has chosen "none," is strong evidence that I was right - people work at things they enjoy for the common good, out of basic human drives of decency etc.

Even if half of the population wanted to be lazy (or, alternatively, all the population half the time) it seems that society should still function well enough.
 
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pattylou said:
I am pretty sure that I've just been insulted.
Of course not. My insults are far more creative than that. That was me excusing you from your position as thread monitor. It's a hijacking without actually changing the subject. Quite clever, really.
 
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Well, alright then. As long as we have that cleared up.

Smurf is terribly clever, and Patty has not been insulted. I'm good with that.
 
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Pengwuino said:
Hmm... living in a world with only basic needs? BORING.
The idea is that if there is something you enjoy doing, you might do it - and thereby relieve your boredom.
 
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pattylou said:
Smurf is terribly clever, and Patty has not been insulted.
got that right.
 

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