Yeah. I don't see how a camera error could make something like that, especially since the band moved with the Earth as the livestream progressed, as if it were actually on the Earth.Greg Bernhardt said:
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Unfortunately, all I got of it was that screenshot. It was on the ISS livestream, so as far as I know, it hasn't been saved anywhere. What do you mean by imaging artifact?davenn said:
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Alright, thanks. Don't know much at all about optics, haha.davenn said:
I usually have http://www.ustream.tv/channel/live-iss-stream open on my browser and watch regularly. They maintain a video file that is searchable but you need to know date/time to find a particular segment. In the social feed there is a group of regulars who are very knowledgeable about artifacts, events etc. I will show the link and see what they say. By the way It's an interesting feed just don't mention UFO's or flat earth. also http://www.ustream.tv/channel/iss-hdev-payload/theater is the HD view.Zarhult said:
Haha, I'm not one of those "flat Earth" morons. Thanks for looking into it.1oldman2 said:
Can you post the link you took the screen shot from?Zarhult said:
Also are you the one who the took screen shot from video or did someone else post the still?1oldman2 said:
The general consensuses from a couple people who are very knowledgeable about artifacts etc. is it's a photoshop job definitely older in fact more than 6 weeks which means it won't be in archives on the site. We need more info and details on this. it is mentioned that if you make the image smaller you can see it's not a simple screen shot, also there is a shadow issue.1oldman2 said:
I did, indeed, take the screen shot myself. I saw the strange gray section on the Earth as it rotated, as if it was actually a part of the planet. Perhaps it was something wrong with my receiving of the image?1oldman2 said:
Is it possible someone messed with the video before you took your screen shot? The geometry of the smudged area is rather blocky compared to what one would see if it was following the rotation of earth. It is very very common for people to "shop" ISS views and post them in fact just mentioning you tube or similar sites will be met with a "show me" attitude. There are lots of "conspiracy" videos related to ISS. The real deal is far better than anything that gets "shopped" and posted.Zarhult said:
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I'm not saying you did anything other than post a question and a screen shot, just going over possible answers to your post. The first thing to consider is when did you take the screen shot, the second is that you tube doesn't live stream video of ISS and the watermarks are from a 3rd party site. While I know of several 3rd party sites that carry ustreams video and occasionally even their social stream they are all (including NASA's channels) plainly stamped as ustream. I believe with the exception of Harmonic's UHD 4K feed ustream is NASA's only partner, (I could be wrong but that is my understanding). My main point in this is, there is a difference between live (stream) and live (feed). Since you were watching "you tube" the video you took the screen shot from was recorded and not very recently judging by the Russian hardware in the view. This leaves plenty of opportunity for 3rd party manipulation. A quick you tube search of ISS will show you how popular the site is with UFO and flat Earth fools, plenty of footage of the "mother ship" etc. If you would like to see what really goes on in real time I recommend opening a tab with the "Live_stream" link I posted earlier in this thread. You should be aware there is a roughly 45 second delay before the video gets to you from the ISS so nobody gets (real time) video but ustream is as close as your going to get. Also there isn't much to see while ISS is on the night side of Earth (about 45 minutes per orbit) with the exception of on Live_stream the exposed cameras really light up while passing through the SAA zone, The HD sites cameras have much better shielding and rarely show any effect from this. Anyone who is interested in ISS will enjoy spending time watching these feeds, a quick note Live_stream is a channel NASA uses for maintenance, ROBO-OP's etc, it has views from I believe about 15 to 18 exterior cams that have pan and zoom capabilities. It is where most enthusiasts hang out in the social feed exchanging info, links and such, the regulars are very helpful and friendly as long as you stick with what's real but if you go into conspiracy/fringe speculation you will be ignored at best. One more note if a person wants to talk on the social feed I would recommend not linking an account to a site like like facebook etc. as you will occasionally come across some very invasive trolls, They are on a "starve a troll" diet and can be rather obnoxious before the "ban hammer" takes them out.Zarhult said:
Wait, so this is pre-recored?1oldman2 said:
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Without a doubt it is pre-recorded, Davenn has it right to the best of my knowledge. As I was saying if you would like to see what really goes on with ISS, create an account on the Live_stream site but make sure it's ustream your looking at and not a 3rd party site. Either use the same name as you have on this site or let me know what you choose so I will recognize you, I will introduce you to a few people That can give you more real information than you can use. If you choose to do this remember my advice about not linking to facebook etc. You will see many cool things going on and everyone of them can be very well explained as you will find, but you won't see any alien ships or the edge of the earth.Zarhult said:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/live-iss-streamAlright, thanks. Another thing I've found that confuses me is this view from NASA's DSCOVR satellite:1oldman2 said:Without a doubt it is pre-recorded, Davenn has it right to the best of my knowledge. As I was saying if you would like to see what really goes on with ISS, create an account on the Live_stream site but make sure it's ustream your looking at and not a 3rd party site. Either use the same name as you have on this site or let me know what you choose so I will recognize you, I will introduce you to a few people That can give you more real information than you can use. If you choose to do this remember my advice about not linking to facebook etc. You will see many cool things going on and everyone of them can be very well explained as you will find, but you won't see any alien ships or the edge of the earth.
The photos were taken between 3:50 and 8:45, a length of 4 hours and 55 minutes, so it would seem to make sense it didn't rotate much. In that time period, the moon would undergo about 0.0076 rotations. But judging by the pictures alone, shouldn't the moon be facing towards the center of the Earth in each photo, giving it some visible rotation? Is it a matter of perspective because of the distance of the satellite?fizzy said:
Ah, alright, after thinking it through it makes sense. The distance from the Earth to the moon is about 62.5 times the radius of the Earth; taking the angles into consideration, it makes sense that from the DSCOVR satellite, the portion of the moon's orbit during which the moon appears to be in front of the Earth would only be a very, very small fraction of the total orbit of the moon, such that it's almost as if the moon doesn't rotate at all. Thanks for putting in the work to make that GIF to help visualize the small bit of rotation that does occur!fizzy said:
I haven't noticed a black spot getting bigger, but it could just be camera imperfections.fizzy said:
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I will look into this and post what ever I can find.fizzy said:
