As kat suggested this can better be a separate thread. I am very concerned about what's Bush up to. It seems there is a hidden red line ... . I really hope there is none. I start with a quite neutral view. Interesting on BBC news website: (1) Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has said his country has no plans to kill Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3217581.stm This is IMO a good point for Sharon: He confirms that he will not kill the chosen President of Palestine. Whaw, that really seems a gift. But also: Israel's treatment of Palestinians is causing a humanitarian crisis, the country's chief of staff General Yaalon has said (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3228843.stm) causing a fury in Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's office. and: (2) Hamas leader talks strategies . http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3224989.stm. [Broken] Insights about the logic used by Hamas. Is this that 'right of revolution'? (thread: can a normal person become a terrorist?) We see that from both sides a lot of emotions are involved, and both claim injustice. Both go for 'an-eye-for-an-eye'. What can stop this spiral of violence? What is the hidden agenda of each? Does Likud really goes in long term for a Great Israel (then Syria is also a target to occupy in the future)? Does Hamas want to destroy Israel completely? - Now what is the long term goal of the Likud party (Sharon's): Check this map. http://www.ahavat-israel.com/ahavat/eretz/future.asp [Broken] . Does it includes Iraq? I think so. Now look what one of Bush religious fathers Pat Roberson states: http://www.patrobertson.com/teaching/TeachingonIsraelTerritory.asp "Every place on which the sole of your foot treads, I have given it to you, just as I spoke to Moses. From the wilderness and this Lebanon, even as far as the great river, the river Euphrates, all the land of the Hittites, and as far as the Great Sea toward the setting of the sun will be your territory." .... Pat Roberson: And why is America in favor of Israel? Because we have a great history of biblical belief -- Judeo-Christian -- and we believe God gave the land to the descendents of Israel. It was not given to Palestine, it wasn't given to so-called Palestinians. It wasn't given to Saudis or the Syrians. It was given to the descendents of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob through Joshua. God said, You step on it and conquer it and I will give it to you. We are looking at a time dating back 3,000 years. This has been the land of Israel. And it belongs to them. And God is not going to let anybody take it away from them." Is this what pushes Bush? Does he risks young American lives to make the dream of Zionist fundamentalists come through or to realize some prophecies of the Bible? http://www.theglobalist.com/DBWeb/StoryId.aspx?StoryId=3025 [Broken] So ... what's the real game Mr. President?