What's the point of life

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some things can be analyzed and comprehended, and that's why we have science. and there are some things that are yet just beyond our analysis, and would be better dealt with living, feeling and experiencing it as human beings, and that's why we have art.
 
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hmm,
that's a neat angle.
 
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bchmtnedisto said:
there is nothing wrong with questioning why mankind is here.but there is definately something wrong with continually asking and being consumed with "why am i here?"
What's the point of life?

To find out why I'm here.

Why am I here?

Because I'm not over there.

or

Why am I here?

There's no proof that you are here!
 
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artrocket, Im saying though that if we cant comprehend and understand it then we wont be able to fulfill the point which basically eliminates the point for the point. And I dont really know what to think about science, we say there is 3 times more dimensions than we can see and all this other stuff, yet we try to understand the universe which I dont think we ever will fully and I also dont see how there could possibly be a god, there is just no proof atleast he hasnt shown us any if he is real, and it has been a long time for him to not have shown any proof so basically I have no reason to believe in god. I personally am not happy with this life`s knowledge and would actually like to die or atleast know way more than we do. But then again, what is the point for trying to understand what isnt us? We may have come from it but it is not conscious and there really is no point for trying to learn about because we wont truly understand everything and there is just no point for trying. Man, Im just ready for this existence to be over, I dont see anything happening as far as afterlife or god.
 
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And also, if something will disprove god I believe it will be astronomy because the pictures Ive seen of space are amazing and the telescopes may hold the key to knowing where we come from but I am just not happy with this. No Im not depressed and Im not troubled, just unhappy and unsatisfied with this life and knowledge we have. I would be fine with dying early because that way I could find out about more stuff, or go completely away from existence. But in this life, some of the things I enjoy are riding motocross, wrestling and fighting, and weed and lsd especially mixed. So, I guess Ill just have to wait to die because too many people would be disappointed if I ended my life early.
 
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fedorfan said:
Im saying though that if we cant comprehend and understand it then we wont be able to fulfill the point which basically eliminates the point for the point.
I have my rocket philosophy to say: "Life is energy in its eloquent patterns."

And I dont really know what to think about science, we say there is 3 times more dimensions than we can see and all this other stuff, yet we try to understand the universe which I dont think we ever will fully and I also dont see how there could possibly be a god, there is just no proof atleast he hasnt shown us any if he is real, and it has been a long time for him to not have shown any proof so basically I have no reason to believe in god. .
I prefer not to spell in 3 letters (g-o-d), it seems limiting. I would rather be continually awed by the mystery. I believe the mystery is not there to bound us, but to continually free us from any set of limitations. It gives us space to continually evolve. Why do we ask questions that already have answers? I prefer answers that unfold like questions.

I think a hindu philosophical perspective stated something like, in paraphrase, "god is a term used by mediocre minds." for you to question about god according to what others say about it, perhaps is not a sign of mediocrity.


But then again, what is the point for trying to understand what isnt us? We may have come from it but it is not conscious and there really is no point for trying to learn about because we wont truly understand everything and there is just no point for trying. Man, Im just ready for this existence to be over, I dont see anything happening as far as afterlife or god.
I believe everything will ultimately flow towards Singularity, hence the monotheistic principle that had propelled humanity to greater visions even while at its basic level.

But in this life, some of the things I enjoy are riding motocross, wrestling and fighting, and weed and lsd especially mixed.
Maybe that's something to be grateful about, whether it's a good or bad thing in life, because in other places of this planet others cannot even afford to pay for their next fare or meal, don't know how to karate (like me), or got entangled with the opium of false religious beliefs.
 
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Yeah, well Im just trying to keep learning and I dont believe about the god stuff anymore because I doubt we will ever find out about it but they talk of new dimensions with the new accelerator in 07 but I see nothing happening as far as finding an almighty being or any superior consciousness for that matter. I dont believe anything will happen as far as afterlife either but I just have an urge to see whats around the corner because Ive seen basically all that I want to see in this consciousness.
 
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the meaning of life is sex
 
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Zelos said:
the meaning of life is sex
in psychoanalysis hetero and homo are both abnormal behaviors as they are both products of suppressed environments. and I guess bi is a term invented because hetero's can't understand anything without sex.

in mercantile morality, hetero is the rule because in such system as capitalism, it is one easily confined in the parametrical economic formula that: sex sells.

if in case this view seems not too comprehensible to some, it's because of materialistic ideologies ingrained in belief systems that treats science as detached to the human phenomenon that made it seem like dead science severed with living realities that disregard the evolution of Human Consciousness. logic is a very good tool, but not an institution. hence, materialism would also be considered as the opium of science.
 
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Interesting topic. An possible analogy to whats the point in life can be seen in individual cells in the human body. They all serve an important purpose but if they could think, they would probably think they were individual entities without purpose because they couldn't see the bigger picture.

Another way to look at life is like a good meal, you can either disect and analyse it but ultimately not get whats good about it, or you can just eat it!
 
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If you are attempting to suggest that life has no point, then I think you my friend, are very misguided at the moment. The point of life is to do what you got to do. If you have to be happy, then strive for happiness (isn't that what you are attempting to do anyways? By having someone prove you wrong, and hoping that you will see a point in living?)

If you are religous, what is the point of LIFE when you are promised infinite bliss in the afterlife?

If you are not religous, what is the point of LIFE when you know when it's over, it's over? No questions asked, you did what you did and no one will remember you.

If you are hell bent on this opinion that the concept of nothingness will forever cling to your psyche, then I can't do anything about it. But you can, you can go out in the world and just have a good time.. Thats what everyone wants. People have different ways to do it, like by trying to bring others down or doing drugs, but find a way that best suits you.

Im about to be cut off in mid thought because Im at school...but think about what i said.
 
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The point of life is finding the point of life
 
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What's the point of life?

To find out why I'm here.

Why am I here?

Because I'm not over there.

or

Why am I here?

There's no proof that you are here!
loved this
I think people are more concerned with asking questions than getting answers. And the question of the point of life cannot be answered by others because we only can fully understand the meaning of our questions so just keep looking and stop being cynical.
 
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If you are attempting to suggest that life has no point, then I think you my friend, are very misguided at the moment. The point of life is to do what you got to do. If you have to be happy, then strive for happiness (isn't that what you are attempting to do anyways? By having someone prove you wrong, and hoping that you will see a point in living?)

If you are religous, what is the point of LIFE when you are promised infinite bliss in the afterlife?

If you are not religous, what is the point of LIFE when you know when it's over, it's over? No questions asked, you did what you did and no one will remember you.

If you are hell bent on this opinion that the concept of nothingness will forever cling to your psyche, then I can't do anything about it. But you can, you can go out in the world and just have a good time.. Thats what everyone wants. People have different ways to do it, like by trying to bring others down or doing drugs, but find a way that best suits you.

Im about to be cut off in mid thought because Im at school...but think about what i said.
I don't think it's so much that people don't believe in a 'point of life' so much as they don't believe that there is a universal 'point of life'.

I think the whole concept of 'point' (assuming it's defined as 'purpose' or 'goal' here) is a human construct itself, so defining the purpose or point of anything seems to introduces subjectivity.
 
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I look at it like this;
Because of the enormity of time/space anything we do or decide has absolutely no meaning.
However from a biological point of view we are here to propagate the species and pass on our knowledge/ideas to the next generation.
I guess what I am trying to say is just try to enjoy the ride and remember (Only one ride per customer and no skips).
 
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I've never understood why some people need to have some artificial meaning associated with life in order for them to live. I cannot even begin to understand how these people could survive without someone to tell them how to think.
 
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I've never understood why some people need to have some artificial meaning associated with life in order for them to live. I cannot even begin to understand how these people could survive without someone to tell them how to think.
When asked 'what is the meaning of life' I can only respond by saying that I am alive and nothing can be meaningful without it.
But I guess it depends on what one's definition of is is.
 
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Your life has no big, glorious, religious meaning. Except it. If you want to believe then fine by me but I dont. I think were going back to the same place we were at before we were born. Enjoy the booze, women, drugs, money, fast cars, etc in the 100 years or so that you for sure have. Dont sit on your butt and fantasize about how great heaven is going to be when there probably isnt even anyone tending the light at the end of the tunnel, much less an eternal afterparty in which all is well. Give this life your best shot at making it big and having as much fun as possible, cherish every moment with your friends/family, love your girl, live every moment like its your last because it very well may be. You probably aint gone get another chance so dont regret what you did.
 
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Whether or not we know or will EVER know the meaning of life. Life shouldn't be wasted. We may not know what we are supposed to do if we are supposed to do anything. But why wouldn't we want to try to good and be remembered as someone who made a difference. I try to think of life more as a open situation compared to fate therefore I can go as far as I want. A vector instead of a scalar if you may :). You can set your own direction as you please and how far you want to go is up to you. I supposed that would be my answer to meaning of life.
 
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Humans are so preoccupied with a "meaning" to life, that perhaps we've never come to objectively consider what we may fear the most; that there is no meaning.
 
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"The basic business of life is to have a wonderfully good time" - Zaphod's first principle.


Read the HitchHiker's Guide to the Galaxy. :biggrin:


Have a good laugh. :rofl:


Make sure the other guy pays for the drinks. :approve:


Don't forget your towel, and


Don't Panic! :cool:
 
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I've never understood why some people need to have some artificial meaning associated with life in order for them to live. I cannot even begin to understand how these people could survive without someone to tell them how to think.
I think it is probably just human nature, and if you don't understand human nature then you probably won't understand how they can survive without someone to tell them how to think.

In my opinion (regarding human nature of course) is that a lot of people in this world are generally more pessimistic than optimistic, and thus think that whatever they are thinking is probably incorrect or invalid

Maybe they hope that someone can validate what they are doing; and allow them the comfort to know that they aren't messing up in anything..

--I plan on finishing this post tomorrow, or maybe i'll forget because I'm supposed to be doing a report-- :grumpy: Oh well:uhh:
 
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I tend to go along with Camus on this one, there is no point, life is ultimately quite absurd, the Universe without Gods leaves us free, no matter our toils. The meaning of life is to live and to not miss the implacable grandeur of this one by looking to the next life. That sort of philosophy makes the most sense to me.

The Myth of Sysiphus:

All Sisyphus' silent joy is contained therein. His fate belongs to him. His rock is a thing Likewise, the absurd man, when he contemplates his torment, silences all the idols. In the universe suddenly restored to its silence, the myriad wondering little voices of the earth rise up. Unconscious, secret calls, invitations from all the faces, they are the necessary reverse and price of victory. There is no sun without shadow, and it is essential to know the night. The absurd man says yes and his efforts will henceforth be unceasing. If there is a personal fate, there is no higher destiny, or at least there is, but one which he concludes is inevitable and despicable. For the rest, he knows himself to be the master of his days. At that subtle moment when man glances backward over his life, Sisyphus returning toward his rock, in that slight pivoting he contemplates that series of unrelated actions which become his fate, created by him, combined under his memory's eye and soon sealed by his death. Thus, convinced of the wholly human origin of all that is human, a blind man eager to see who knows that the night has no end, he is still on the go. The rock is still rolling.

I leave Sisyphus at the foot of the mountain! One always finds one's burden again. But Sisyphus teaches the higher fidelity that negates the gods and raises rocks. He too concludes that all is well. This universe henceforth without a master seems to him neither sterile nor futile. Each atom of that stone, each mineral flake of that night filled mountain, in itself forms a world. The struggle itself toward the heights is enough to fill a man's heart. One must imagine Sisyphus happy.
 
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Another guy that wants to shout out his oppinion without reading all that's before him.
For me it is different in that I find much meaning, but I also feel small. I'm supporised when someone says they can't find meaning in anything for to me there is so much. Maybe if you can't find a meaning all you want is to be with someone? Usually for me at the least that means being with someone that is more alike you and not different. It can make the world rock, but of course you want to do the right things(kinda like get the right meaning) also. So, then.. you have the problem of finding someone that's alike, or someone that can show you the right way. Now that can be a dilemma(or maybe being with someone alike can make both grow equally because maybe you both know different things and can learn eachother!). Usually I would guess that could solve itself by joining a larger group doing something, and that also takes a leap of, maybe not faith as someone here said, but a leap of courage. I've done that sometimes, it have been alittle embarresing, and I think it can be that for many, but usually it had ended up with just alittle laughter afterwards and people that I didn't like anyway turning away from me, and those who fit to me come closer. Point is that I am making is that I personally have a hard time differenting meaning from social meaning, and I guess that goes for others also. It's quite womanistic, it is most women that advice you to join people, but it usually works ime. Point is also that when you're down the look up ahead looks really high, you have to take step by step, but by struggling alittle extra will maybe not take you to the top, but you'll find yourself taking a step, and that can give (imexperience) supprisingly alot of selfboost and happiness. Try be nice when you're with others, maybe they'll say you're lazy(because they don't understand your feeling of meaningless), and they probably or maybe won't understand you're nice, but they'll learned something and so have you, cause I think one learn so infinitly much by being with others.
 
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Well to be frank, I am giving what I think has meaning to me, without referencing what anyone else has said, because then that wouldn't be my personal philosophy. I happen to believe that there is no real deep underlying meaning, and that instead of looking for something I might never find, I should appreciate what I have and learn to enjoy life for as long as I possibly can. I don't see what that has to do with anyone elses opinion, and I don't see why my personal philosophy shouldn't be entirely subjective; if people want to find deep meaning in their life good for them. I don't need to, I got rid of that rock long ago. If it sounds selfish so be it. But I am not making out an ethical code, I am as moral as the next person if not more so, so I don't see why I should have to explain my personal philosophy in any further way than as it applies to the point of life.
 
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