When are atoms and molecules unpredictable in chemistry?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the predictability of chemical/molecular bonding and the behavior of atoms and molecules in a system. While the equilibrium state of a system can be predicted in principle, the data and information required to do so is often not available in practice. Therefore, the behavior of individual atoms and molecules cannot be predicted, as demonstrated by the example of predicting the location of an atom in a container.
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I'm playing with a theory I have at the moment and wondered if anyone could help with giving me some good examples of chemical/molecular bonding in which the partners' an atom will acquire are unpredictable.
For example if I had 1g of Hydrogen atoms, 8g of oxygen atoms and 3g of carbon would the end result be predictable. If not when are such examples 'unpredictable'?

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"Predictable?" In principle, yes; in practice, for the C-H-O system (or other system), the data/information required for predicting equilibrium composition, free energies of formation for ALL possible products, is not available. Same thing for any other chemical system --- there is one equilibrium state for any specified overall/total composition and T,P,ρ.
 
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I don't get it. This equilibrium state, is it always predictable that free molecules and atoms will act a certain way?

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Originally posted by Silvershadow
I don't get it. This equilibrium state, is it always predictable that free molecules and atoms will act a certain way?

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It's called "chemistry." If you mean, "Can the behavior of a specific, labelled atom be predicted?" the answer is no. The example would be predicting the location of an atom or molecule in a container --- see "the drunkard's walk."
 

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