Where can I find pinion gears?

In summary: It's not plastic, so I don't think so.In summary, the plastic gear that belongs to a microscope is broken and the person is wondering if there are standard sizes or how they can get a replacement. They also mention that it may be possible to use modelling clay to make a copy of the tooth profile and then cast the replacement pinion from epoxy. They also mention that it may be possible to use a brass cylinder in a lathe to replace the gear. The person also mentions that the gear might be able to be replaced with a Boston gear if the shaft is undersized.
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How do you guys find the gears you need?
So I have a broken plastic pinion gear that belongs to my microscope and I'm wondering if there are standard sizes or how am I supposed to get a replacement? How do you guys find the gears you need? Seems like a pretty hard thing to find online.

It's an helical pinion gear. I have the dimensions but it's a small piece and I don't know if it's possible to 3D print something like that.

Just in case here are the dimensions, sorry for the bad quality drawing:

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I think what you are looking for is a "screw gear", not a pinion gear (although it acts as a pinion gear).
 
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Spares may be available. What is the make and model of the microscope?

Is it part of the focus mechanism? Does it drive a rack?

It may be possible to use modelling clay to make a copy. Use the rack as a master to copy the tooth profile. Then make a mould from the clay and cast your replacement pinion from epoxy.
 
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Can you provide photos of the gear and its surrounding structure. Please show different views of the gear and the structure where it is located. I have a lot of old microscope parts and might be able to find one for you. Also, please provide the scope's make and model.
 
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Thanks for the answers. The brand looks like HOC, I included a picture. I don't know about the model. The gear drives the rack.

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Rack and gear:

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The gear goes into a 4mm metal shaft:

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Is this for the focusing rack or the stage table cross fed?
Can you provide an overall image of the adjoining structures?
 
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It's for a rack that moves up and down in order to focus.

This is the entire mechanism

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The metal shaft goes into this hole in the microscope (the one between two screws) and at the top you can see where the rack goes:

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Can you see how the plastic gear was afixed to the shaft?
 
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Baluncore said:
Maybe the; Holland Optical Company (HOC). Now has a different logo?
https://www.hocsite.com/

I figured out the brand, It's a Japanese Y.K.S HOC microscope It's "vintage" and I doubt I'll find a spare part. So I guess I'll have to figure out how to get one done for me or adapt something else. The gear looks so simple, I thought I could simply google for one.
 
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AZFIREBALL said:
Can you see how the plastic gear was afixed to the shaft?
Only pressure, it's a 4mm hole
 
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What do you mean by pressure?
 
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AZFIREBALL said:
What do you mean by pressure?
The gear is pushed in, friction, I guess it's nylon or some plastic that can expand a bit
 
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boston gear may have what you need
 
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So you think the gear was just pressed onto the shaft? There are no set screws, shaft keys or square bosses to prevent the gear from rotating relative to the shaft? Mmmmm. Plastics do not do well under long term constant stress, due to their creep characteristics.
 
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AZFIREBALL said:
So you think the gear was just pressed onto the shaft? There are no set screws, shaft keys or square bosses to prevent the gear from rotating relative to the shaft? Mmmmm. Plastics do not do well under long term constant stress, due to their creep characteristics.
Yeah, they just pressed it, probably explains why it broke off.
 
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Because it is a helical gear it will run smoothly in that application even if it is not perfect.
You might turn up a brass cylinder in a lathe.
Drill the hole undersize, then press it onto the shaft.
Mark the tooth ridge lines on the surface of the cylinder.
File or dremel the teeth to approximate shape.
Roll the gear on the rack to identify high spots that need more work.
Reassemble with grease on the rack.
 
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Try sticking the broken gear back with super glue?
 
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vxiaoyu18 said:
Try sticking the broken gear back with super glue?

Unfortunately I did it already and it broke off again, now it has so much glue that I can't glue it back into its original shape.
 
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A tip from a supplier of super glue says warm water will eventually loosen it, and if the base material allows it, Acetone works. Other sites list a range of organic solvents but many of them are quite aggresive (dangerous).

https://www.permabond.com/2019/07/22/how-to-remove-cyanoacrylate-adhesive/

(above found with:
https://www.google.com/search?&q=solvent+for+cyanoacrylate+glue)
 
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Here is the best I could find in my junk box. It is a metal gear, not plastic. Do you think you could use https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/250026https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/250027https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/250028https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/250029it? If you want it I will send it to you for the cost of postage. Let me know.
 
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I see my post does not show the images. I found this one. If you want it let me know.
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AZFIREBALL said:
I see my post does not show the images. I found this one. If you want it let me know.
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Thanks for all but it won't work, that's a right handed gear and I need a left handed one, I also preffer it to be plastic so it doesn't grind the plastic rack mechanism. I think I'll try to find someone who can make one for me but thanks again.
 
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Making a one-off gear is expensive unless you have a hobbyist friend* or neighbor who does that sort of thing for fun. I would poke around online looking for similar models in cheap (broken) condition. Unless you need it fixed in a hurry.

I like the suggestion by @Baluncore above, it's worth a try -- maybe with some plastic if you don't want to use brass.

* yes this is a pun
 

1. Where can I buy pinion gears?

Pinion gears can be purchased at most hardware stores, hobby shops, and online retailers. It is also possible to find them at specialized gear or machinery stores.

2. What are the different types of pinion gears?

There are several types of pinion gears, including spur, helical, bevel, and worm gears. Each type has its own unique design and function, so it is important to choose the right one for your specific needs.

3. How do I know which size of pinion gear to use?

The size of the pinion gear you need will depend on the size of the gear it will be meshing with. It is important to choose a pinion gear with the correct number of teeth to ensure proper function and compatibility.

4. Can I use any type of lubricant for pinion gears?

No, it is important to use a lubricant specifically designed for gears. These lubricants are thicker and have better adhesion properties, which are necessary for proper gear function and longevity.

5. How do I install and maintain pinion gears?

Pinion gears should be installed according to the manufacturer's instructions. It is important to regularly clean and lubricate the gears to prevent wear and ensure smooth operation. If any damage or wear is noticed, the gears should be replaced immediately to avoid further damage.

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