Region of Cone in Cylindrical Coordinates: Wondering

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In summary, the conversation discusses the set $D=\{(x, y, z) \mid \sqrt{x^2+y^2}\leq z\leq 1\}$ and whether it represents a cone, and why cylindrical coordinates are used for calculating integrals over $D$. The conversation also touches on the rotational symmetry of the cone and the use of different coordinate systems for different types of inequalities.
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Hey! :eek:

Which region does the set $D=\{(x, y, z) \mid \sqrt{x^2+y^2}\leq z\leq 1\}$ represent?

The surface $z= \sqrt{x^2+y^2}$ is a cone, or not? But why when we want to calculate an integral over $D$ we use cylindrical coordinates? (Wondering)
 
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mathmari said:
Hey! :eek:

Which region does the set $D=\{(x, y, z) \mid \sqrt{x^2+y^2}\leq z\leq 1\}$ represent?

The surface $z= \sqrt{x^2+y^2}$ is a cone, or not? But why when we want to calculate an integral over $D$ we use cylindrical coordinates? (Wondering)

Hey mathmari!

Yep. It's a cone up to z=1. (Nod)

It has rotational symmetry around the z-axis, but not around any other axis.
That makes it a prime candidate for cylindrical coordinates, and not for spherical coordinates.
More specifically, if we substitute $\rho=\sqrt{x^2+y^2}$, we have one variable less to deal with, which is only the case in cylindrical coordinates. (Nerd)
 
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I like Serena said:
It has rotational symmetry around the z-axis, but not around any other axis.

What do you mean? I got stuck right now. (Wondering)
 
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mathmari said:
What do you mean? I got stuck right now. (Wondering)

Isn't a cone round?
Doesn't it map to itself when we rotate it around the z-axis?
 
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I like Serena said:
Isn't a cone round?
Doesn't it map to itself when we rotate it around the z-axis?

Yes.

We have the following:

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mathmari said:
Yes.

We have the following:

Yep. (Nod)

It means that when we integrate over $D$, the integrals will generally be easier.
We should probably look at an example to see why that is exactly. (Thinking)
 
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I like Serena said:
Yep. (Nod)

It means that when we integrate over $D$, the integrals will generally be easier.

So, to use the cylindrical coordinates it is not necessary to have a cylinder as the region $D$ ? (Wondering)
 
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mathmari said:
So, to use the spherical coordinates it is not necessary to have a cylinder as the region $D$ ? (Wondering)

Indeed.
Just like we don't need a cuboid to integrate in cartesian coordinates. (Thinking)
 
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I like Serena said:
Indeed.
Just like we don't need a cuboid to integrate in cartesian coordinates. (Thinking)

Ah ok. Do we use the cylindrical coordinates when we have an inequality for $x^2+y^2$ and the spherical coordinates when we have an inequality for $x^2+y^2+z^2$ ? (Wondering)
 
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mathmari said:
Ah ok. Do we use the cylindrical coordinates when we have an inequality for $x^2+y^2$ and the spherical coordinates when we have an inequality for $x^2+y^2+z^2$ ? (Wondering)

Yes.
It usually makes the integration a lot easier. (Mmm)
 
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I like Serena said:
Yes.
It usually makes the integration a lot easier. (Mmm)

Ah ok! Thank you so much! (Yes)
 

1. What is the region of a cone in cylindrical coordinates?

The region of a cone in cylindrical coordinates is a three-dimensional space that is defined by the combination of a circular base and a curved side that tapers to a point. The shape can be visualized as a cone with a circular base and a curved surface that extends to a point at the top.

2. How is the region of a cone in cylindrical coordinates different from a regular cone?

The main difference between a cone in cylindrical coordinates and a regular cone is the coordinate system used to define it. In cylindrical coordinates, the position of a point is described by its distance from the origin, its angle from the horizontal plane, and its height from the base. This is different from the Cartesian coordinates used to define a regular cone, which uses x, y, and z coordinates to describe a point's position.

3. What are the equations used to represent a cone in cylindrical coordinates?

The equations used to represent a cone in cylindrical coordinates are r = ztan(θ), where r represents the distance from the origin, θ represents the angle from the horizontal plane, and z represents the height from the base. Additionally, the equation for the cone's base is r = 0, and the equation for the cone's side is z = r/cot(θ).

4. How is the region of a cone in cylindrical coordinates used in science?

The region of a cone in cylindrical coordinates is used in various scientific fields, including physics, engineering, and geology. It is used to represent objects and phenomena that have a cone-like shape, such as volcanoes, ice cream cones, and tornadoes. The equations for a cone in cylindrical coordinates are also used in calculations and experiments involving cylindrical objects.

5. What are some real-life examples of a cone in cylindrical coordinates?

Some real-life examples of a cone in cylindrical coordinates include traffic cones, megaphones, and lampshades. In nature, the shape of a flower or a pine cone can also be approximated by a cone in cylindrical coordinates. Additionally, many man-made structures, such as smokestacks and cooling towers, have a conical shape and can be described using cylindrical coordinates.

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