I've never owned an mp3 player before :surprised. Now I want to invest in one. But I'm unsure which one to get. So far I've looked at the Ipod, Creative Zen, and Zune players. The zune looks damn pretty with its relatively large screen. Whats your experience with these? I honestly don't think I'd ever need 30GB for over 7000 songs. I have about 40 albums I want to digitize (just over 500 songs; I'll have it mp3 and wma format). According to the specs on the 4GB Zen player, it can hold about 2000 songs. Should I take this limit literally? An average album when ripped or downloaded for me is about 60 - 90MB (approx. 12 songs ea.). According to that, I'd only have enough space for 22 albums. If a 4GB can hold 2000 songs, and a 30BG can hold 7000 songs; something doesn't seem right there. I wont enjoy any movies on that small screen either. Is the 4GB Zen a good investment? This situation reminds me of the time when I was in the grocery to get some jam. There were like over 40 different kinds. I left the store with nothing. EDIT - I would also appreciate the convenience of recording lectures in school. EDIT2 - The zen players have flashed based memory. When compared to other mp3 players, the flash memory is sturdier than hard drive based ones. EDIT3(OMG!) - the 2000 song claim is based on songs at 64kps! Thats no kind of quality right? Most my mp3s are 128 - 320kps (most of them being either 128 or 192kps). SO i'm only looking at about 1000 at 128kps or just over 650 songs at 192kps.