Piano: Playing the Right Hand an Octave Lower

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In summary, the first version sounds better, but has a low Bb in the 4-th measure. The second version has better chords, but the third and fourth measures sound too similar.

Which version sounds better?

  • Version 1 (1)

    Votes: 4 80.0%
  • Version 2 (2)

    Votes: 1 20.0%

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  • #1
bomba923
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(Remember to play the right hand an octave lower)

So, which sounds better on the piano?
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Just looking at the music, I would think the first one sounds better... but I worry about that low Bb in the 4-th measure.

All I have handy is my trusty recorder, and the first one does, indeed, sound better. But I'm not playing the low Bb along with it.

That chord in the second line just plain looks weird in this sequence. Eb-minor? It might look better written as a Gb instead of F#, but that doesn't change the sound. :smile: In any case, the diminished chord looks like it fits in a lot better.

The major problem with the second line, at least in my rendition on recorder, is that the third and fourth measures just sound too similar.
 
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Hey hurkyl, want to let us see the attachment?
 
  • #4
They look identical to me...

Edit: Oh I see it now.
 
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M. 3-4 transition in the second example is nonsense. The diminshed triad in the first example is merely awkward, and painful, much more so with the unnecessary Bb suspension. If this is a theory exercise (as I hope), lots of things to things to be improved might be

-mobile bass
-use readable notation (bass clef for RH)
-look up, in your text, a half-decent transition from IV(64) to I, there are many
-figure out what your rests mean, and why they make everything more awkward
(hint: 1st downbeat is the strongest beat)
 
  • #6
rachmaninoff2 said:
M. 3-4 transition in the second example is nonsense. The diminshed triad in the first example is merely awkward, and painful, much more so with the unnecessary Bb suspension. If this is a theory exercise (as I hope), lots of things to things to be improved might be

-mobile bass
-use readable notation (bass clef for RH)
-look up, in your text, a half-decent transition from IV(64) to I, there are many
-figure out what your rests mean, and why they make everything more awkward
(hint: 1st downbeat is the strongest beat)

Well, this is not really a theory exercise--->just two versions of a piece I've just received from my buddies, and I'm trying to find out which version is better. As clarity seems to be an issue, I post a clearer image soon...

(Well...I'll change their F# to a Gb...and those "toted quarter rests" will be replaced with separate quarter and eighth rests. Also, I'll transpose the RH to work with a bass clef)
 
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bomba923 said:
(Well...I'll change their F# to a Gb...
That still doesn't work; IV-iv is very questionable harmonically... and in this case the notes are exactly repeated.

and those "toted quarter rests" will be replaced with separate quarter and eighth rests. Also, I'll transpose the RH to work with a bass clef)

The dotted rests are correct as they are - changing that would decrease readability. The questionable rests are in the upper staff, looking at the apparent melodic structure - apparently the strong beats are all silent! :zzz: If they're looking at the Bb as melodic, even worse - you have a melodic structure that looks like "Bb - Bb - Bb - Bb - Bb".
 
  • #8
Actually--
the first version is from Carl Fischer's "Let Us Have Music for Piano", from last few lines of Maxwell Eckstein's arrangement of "Ave Maria" in Bb major.

(The second version is how a buddy of mine wanted to revise it :redface:)

(The original idea was to stick Maxwell Eckstein's arrangement, but just changed one/two notes slightly in that one measure. Though, I don't think this piece was part of the original "Ave Maria", as composed by Schubert; rather, it's probably just an addition in Eckstein's arrangement)
 
  • #9
Arrangments are no better than the arranger.
 

What does it mean to play the right hand an octave lower on the piano?

Playing the right hand an octave lower on the piano means to play the same notes in the right hand, but one octave lower on the piano keyboard. This results in a lower pitch and a fuller sound.

Why would someone want to play the right hand an octave lower on the piano?

Playing the right hand an octave lower on the piano can add depth and richness to a piece of music. It can also make it easier to reach certain chords or notes, especially for those with smaller hands.

Is playing the right hand an octave lower on the piano difficult?

Playing the right hand an octave lower on the piano can be challenging at first, but with practice, it can become easier. It requires coordination and strength in the fingers to play the notes in the lower octave accurately.

Can I play any song with the right hand an octave lower on the piano?

Not all songs will sound good when played with the right hand an octave lower on the piano. Some pieces may sound muddy or lose their intended melody. It is best to experiment and see which songs sound best with this technique.

Are there any tips for playing the right hand an octave lower on the piano?

It can be helpful to practice playing scales and simple melodies with the right hand an octave lower to get used to the feeling and coordination. It is also important to maintain proper hand and finger positioning to avoid strain or injury.

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