Main Question or Discussion Point
Life, body, freedom, family, country, recognition - what individual has most selflessly yielded one of these or more to benefit the greater good?
I know someone who fits the description of life, body, freedom, family, country, recognition and selflessness. You can love someone so much that you care more about their well being than your own life, and I hold great respect for that, although it's sad.Loren Booda said:Life, body, freedom, family, country, recognition - what individual has most selflessly yielded one of these or more to benefit the greater good?
WWI and WWII. Greatest number of people who gave all for country and victory. But it was never really a victory. People died, that is not victorious but brutel and unethical.'In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.'
I think those who have gone unknown, who have quietly done what they felt was needed for the greater good without seeking recognition, have probably given the greatest sacrifice.Loren Booda said:The majority of the selfless throughout history are indeed the unknown - maybe it's anonymity in large part that gets us into heaven.
I have. I spent a week in Belgium to remember the world war victims and to learn about the wars and I couldn't keep my emotion in. I had to cry at almost every cemetory and it was not nice to see. I also found a soldier with my surname at the Menin Gate and I spent 15 minutes there on my, just remembering this one soldier, that I never knew, and wishing I had time to do the same for every soldier that died.Loren Booda said:In response to The Bob, how many of you have witnessed the countless crosses (stars, etc.) marching off to the horizon to keep remembrance of those horrific wars? Each marks a man, or boy; each took many tears from those they loved. What of us?
A great man he is but I am in a very emotion state so will post later as I think if I think about I will start crying again.Spock said:Any opinions?
Ivan Seeking said:...
When I think of selflessness - Mother Theresa.
dekoi said:Jesus Christ.
Need more a more contemporary-based answer?
-- Mother Theresa.
It is such a shame that apartheid is a dutch word it never should have been used.Spock said:Many of the people who fought against apartheid in south africa didn't only end up in jail,they were also physically and mentally tortured,some of them till the point of death (Steve Biko).