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Gokul43201
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Wow ! I thought this thread was titled "why are you voting for Bush ?"
MR. RUSSERT: You mentioned you're a military guy. There's been a lot of discussion about Bob Kerrey, your former Democratic colleague in the Senate, about his talking about his anguish about what happened in Vietnam . You were on this program 30 years ago as a leader of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War. And we went back and have an audiotape of that and some still photos. And your comments are particularly timely in this overall discussion of Bob Kerrey. And I'd like for you to listen to those with our audience and then try to put that war into some context:
(Audiotape, April 18, 1971):
MR. CROSBY NOYES (Washington Evening Star): Mr. Kerry, you said at one time or another that you think our policies in Vietnam are tantamount to genocide and that the responsibility lies at all chains of command over there. Do you consider that you personally as a Naval officer committed atrocities in Vietnam or crimes punishable by law in this country?
SEN. KERRY: There are all kinds of atrocities, and I would have to say that, yes, yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed in that I took part in shootings in free fire zones. I conducted harassment and interdiction fire. I used 50 calibre machine guns, which we were granted and ordered to use, which were our only weapon against people. I took part in search and destroy missions, in the burning of villages. All of this is contrary to the laws of warfare, all of this is contrary to the Geneva Conventions and all of this is ordered as a matter of written established policy by the government of the United States from the top down. And I believe that the men who designed these, the men who designed the free fire zone, the men who ordered us, the men who signed off the air raid strike areas, I think these men, by the letter of the law, the same letter of the law that tried Lieutenant Calley, are war criminals.
(End audiotape)
MR. RUSSERT: Thirty years later, you stand by that?
SEN. KERRY: I don't stand by the genocide. I think those were the words of an angry young man….
Gokul43201 said:Wow ! I thought this thread was titled "why are you voting for Bush ?"
Stanley_Smith said:There have been many great answers posted, I'd like to add this:
Lots of people say they'll vote for Kerry just simply because they don't like Bush; seems like these are the Micheal Moore's people... it's pretty sad that there are tons of people change who they'll vote for over nite, just after watching fahrenheit 911 !...
There is no difference between the anti-war activists in the Vietnam War back in the 70s and these anti-war protesters these days...
People who vote for Bush believe that he'll do anything to protect Americans and american ALLIES in time of war like now...
Microburst said:Iraq never attacked America, America attacked Iraq...
Microburst said:Gulf was wrong ,
I don't WANT people who think like you on my side of the aisle. Stay where you are. You fit in just fine.phatmonky said:You make me very glad I didn't decide to vote like you.
Perhaps by 2008 you'll have found a manner in which to attract voters to your side of the aisle.
Microburst said:Gulf was wrong , Gulf [II] was wrong, we had no business meddling in middle-east politics. What we should do is look for alternative energy sources, after all life existed before petroleum. Our planet only has a limited reserve, what would you do after that runs out??
Zantra said:1. Dan Quayle misspelled potato, but at least he doesn't make up new words-So Bush is a bigger idiot than Dan Quayle.
Microburst said:Gulf was wrong , Gulf [II] was wrong, we had no business meddling in middle-east politics. What we should do is look for alternative energy sources, after all life existed before petroleum. Our planet only has a limited reserve, what would you do after that runs out??
Zantra said:SO defending kuwait was wrong?.. you're right we should have just let saddam kill everyone and that country and laughed at the situation. If you're going for the oil angle, it was still the right thing to do, regardless of motives.
And the #1 top 10 reason I'm not voting for Bush (elaborate drumroll...)
1. Dan Quayle misspelled potato, but at least he doesn't make up new words-So Bush is a bigger idiot than Dan Quayle.
onegermanbeerglass said:2. Lacks understanding of economics.
Microburst said:LOL! ... But seriously we never interfered in Iran Iraq war to the degree we did in that stupid gulf [protect the oil] war. Zantra you know it was wrong now admit it... I mean really who cares? why do we go there man if not for oil??
Bush and Cheney team reminds me of the cartoon Pinky and the Brain. Cheney being the brain of course….
Microburst said:LOL! ... But seriously we never interfered in Iran Iraq war to the degree we did in that stupid gulf [protect the oil] war. Zantra you know it was wrong now admit it... I mean really who cares? why do we go there man if not for oil??
Bush and Cheney team reminds me of the cartoon Pinky and the Brain. Cheney being the brain of course….