The Science Behind Ice Skating: Debunking the Myth of Pressure and Melting Point

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In summary, the conversation discusses the misconception that the pressure on ice lowers its melting point and how this does not fully explain why ice is slippery. The real reason has to do with the low coefficient of friction of ice and there are multiple papers and theories discussing this topic.
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An often encountered but incorrect answer would be that the pressure on the ice lowers its melting point. This doesn't make much sense since this effect can only lower the melting point of ice by a very small amount 1C by a simple calculation in thermal dynamics.

So the question is, what makes ice slippery so that people can skate?
 
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Why does that not make sense? Typically, the surface of ice will be close to 32 degrees Fahrenheit so that slight increase in temperature will melt a tiny bit of the surface and so make it slippery.

(If you really freeze ice so that even it surface is well below freezing, you cannot "skate" on it- pressure will not make it slippery.)
 
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Well, you do see people skate when it is much colder than 32 degrees Fahrenheit, which the simple answer cannot explain.
 
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OP is correct, the melting point is reduced by less than 1 degree, and the ice temperature is perhaps -5 or -10C or so. It is a myth that the ice melts under the skate.

I think the reason is because ice has a very low coefficient of friction... as to why, it has to do with friction theory, and this I don't know. Maybe someone else has an answer.
 
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Read this:

http://lptms.u-psud.fr/membres/trizac/Ens/L3FIP/Ice.pdf

There are other papers on why ice is slippery and why we can skate on ice. The pressure-melting reason is not quite accurate.

S. C. Colbeck et al., Am. J. Phys. v.65, p.488 (1997).
S. C. Colbeck, Am. J. Phys. v.63, p.888.

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1. How does ice skating work?

Ice skating works by reducing friction between the blades of the ice skates and the surface of the ice. When the blades glide over the ice, the pressure exerted causes a thin layer of water to form between the skate and the ice. This layer of water reduces friction, allowing the skater to glide smoothly across the ice.

2. Why doesn't the ice melt under the pressure of the skater's weight?

The ice does not melt under the pressure of the skater's weight because the pressure exerted by the skater is spread out over a larger surface area due to the sharp blades of the ice skates. This reduces the pressure on any one point of the ice, preventing it from melting.

3. Is the melting point of ice lower when pressure is applied?

No, the melting point of ice remains the same regardless of pressure. The melting point of ice is determined by its chemical makeup and is not affected by external factors such as pressure. Pressure may affect the rate at which ice melts, but not the actual melting point.

4. Why do ice skates glide better on colder ice?

Ice skates glide better on colder ice because the cold temperature causes the ice to become harder and more compact, reducing the amount of friction between the skate and the ice. This allows for smoother and faster gliding on the ice.

5. Can ice skates create heat and melt the ice?

While it may seem like ice skates are creating heat and melting the ice, this is not the case. The friction between the skate and the ice does generate some heat, but it is not enough to significantly melt the ice. The thin layer of water formed under the skate also helps to dissipate any heat that is generated, preventing the ice from melting.

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