Understanding High Thrust of Vacuum Rocket Engines

In summary, vacuum engines produce higher thrust than sea level engines because of the larger nozzle area. Designers have to take steps to prevent the "expanding" exhaust gas from damaging spacecraft.
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Why do vacuum rocket engine always producing high thrust than sea level rocket engine ?

for example spacex's merlin vacuum engine produce more thrust than merlin sea level engine. And it is due to the big nozzle with large area in vacuum engine because when the flow reaches mach 1 in the throat then if we increase the area the velocity will be increase (opposite to subsonic flow) and pressure and temp will decrease and that's why it is producing higher thrust ? and we can't that much big nozzle in sea level because it will highly over expanded and cause flow separation right ?

or they just increasing the nozzle exit area in vacuum for reducing the under expansion because the ambient pressure in vacuum is almost zero so what ever we do to the nozzle it will definitely under expanded but if we increase the area then we reduce the under expansion and improve efficiency and mass flow rate in the vacuum engine divergent area will be same as the mass flow rate in the sea level rocket engine's divergent area ?

and if thrust increases then the Isp also increases (thust/weight flow rate) than the sea level rocket engine right ? or any other thing is happening ? pls pls pls pls say
 
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The answer to your basic question is: The (ultimate) exit pressure is 15 PSI lower for the 'vacuum' engine. For engines with identical mass flow, this is a significant net thrust advantage (assuming that the divergent section is optimized for the exit conditions). Vacuum nozzles are longer in order to 'capture' the thrust available from what would be sub-atmospheric exhaust gas in a sea-level engine. You can see this effect in an ascending (from sea-level) engine - the exhaust plume increasingly 'expands' at the exit plane as atmospheric pressure decreases - this is the 'waste' that a vacuum nozzle is optimized to capture.

For some vacuum-operated engines (most solid apogee kick motors) there isn't room for an optimized nozzle (extra fuel is easier). Designers have to take steps (plume deflectors) to prevent the 'expanding' exhaust gas from damaging the spacecraft .
 
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Dullard said:
The answer to your basic question is: The (ultimate) exit pressure is 15 PSI lower for the 'vacuum' engine. For engines with identical mass flow, this is a significant net thrust advantage (assuming that the divergent section is optimized for the exit conditions). Vacuum nozzles are longer in order to 'capture' the thrust available from what would be sub-atmospheric exhaust gas in a sea-level engine. You can see this effect in an ascending (from sea-level) engine - the exhaust plume increasingly 'expands' at the exit plane as atmospheric pressure decreases - this is the 'waste' that a vacuum nozzle is optimized to capture.

For some vacuum-operated engines (most solid apogee kick motors) there isn't room for an optimized nozzle (extra fuel is easier). Designers have to take steps (plume deflectors) to prevent the 'expanding' exhaust gas from damaging the spacecraft .
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What is the definition of high thrust in a vacuum rocket engine?

High thrust in a vacuum rocket engine refers to the amount of force or push generated by the engine to propel a spacecraft in a vacuum environment. It is typically measured in Newtons (N) or pounds-force (lbf).

What factors contribute to achieving high thrust in a vacuum rocket engine?

Several factors contribute to achieving high thrust in a vacuum rocket engine, including the design and efficiency of the engine, the type of propellant used, and the nozzle shape and size. The amount of propellant flow rate and the combustion chamber pressure also play a significant role in achieving high thrust.

How does a vacuum rocket engine produce high thrust?

A vacuum rocket engine produces high thrust by expelling hot gases at high velocities through a nozzle. This is achieved through the controlled combustion of propellant, which creates a high-pressure and high-temperature gas that is then accelerated through the nozzle, producing thrust in the opposite direction.

What is the importance of high thrust in a vacuum rocket engine?

High thrust is crucial for a vacuum rocket engine because it determines the acceleration and speed of a spacecraft. The higher the thrust, the faster the spacecraft can travel and the more payload it can carry. High thrust is also essential for maneuvering and controlling the spacecraft's trajectory.

What are some challenges in achieving high thrust in a vacuum rocket engine?

Achieving high thrust in a vacuum rocket engine poses several challenges, including the need for a powerful and efficient combustion process, the ability to withstand high temperatures and pressures, and the design and construction of a suitable nozzle. The type and availability of propellant also play a significant role in the challenges of achieving high thrust.

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