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Why I couldn't be a woman

  1. May 5, 2003 #1
    [SOLVED] Why I couldn't be a woman

    1) You gotta wear shoes it's impossible to walk in
    2) The guy in the office with the same qualifications, same age and experience gets more pay because he's ......... a guy
    3) Guys keep staring at your legs
    4) A lot of guys expect you to work fulltime, clean the house, cook all the meals and look after the kids
    5) You gotta look good all the time, the older you get the more warpaint you're supposed to wear
    6) You sit in a bar on your own and guys swarm round like flies
    7) Nine months of labor; the guy only has to work five minutes
    8) Guys seem to run everything: when will there be a woman president?
    9) You can't pee standing up without removing a lot of clothing
    10) It's just too hard work being a woman
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  3. May 5, 2003 #2
    Have a look at this:

    http://milkmonkey.diaryland.com/XYprivilege.html [Broken]
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  4. May 5, 2003 #3
    why i couldn't be a man:

    i'd have to spend (waste) hours of my time compiling lists to make myself feel better about my obvious self esteem problem due to my gender. or i would spend hours reading them for the same reason. the time it takes you to do this a woman somewhere will become president, win a sexual harassement case, be awarded a nobel prize...
  5. May 5, 2003 #4
    The UK has had a woman prime minister.
    And there are stereotypes which men have to live up to as well...so quit whining.
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  6. May 5, 2003 #5
    No one's whining, I am married to a successful woman and I wouldn't have it any other way. It's time for an American woman president too but it wont happen, oh, for another 50 years or so.
  7. May 5, 2003 #6
    and the relevance is? Although when/if I get married I would rather it be to a woman who is successful rather than a layabout.

    Whenever a suitable candidate is in the right position with suitable policies, then it is up to the American public to decide.
  8. May 5, 2003 #7
    Plus, you want to know the relevance of it? Well, this is general discussion, which gives posters a chance to comment without having to underpin our remarks with footnotes and references. It's also an opportunity to reflect on cultural phenomena.

    For example, why (in the west at least) is it considered attractive for women to wear high-heeled shoes. They serve no obvious and direct practical function for the woman. Some cultural anthropologists say the heels make a woman look vulnerable, in need of a protection, so it's a device to attract men. Others say the heel gives the calf muscle a shape and line that makes a man think of reproduction, so same idea, it's aimed at men.

    Similarly, why do women, even in the democratic west, generally get paid less for the same work? There's a huge can of worms to open and talk about.

    Why is a woman considered sexually unattractive when she hits, say, 60, while a man of that age is considered desirable? Why do we have ludicrous movies like Entrapment, in which the hero is a very senior citizen while his partner and lover is a woman half his age? Why wouldn't audiences accept a movie where a man in his 20s falls in love with a 60 year old woman? Maybe they would accept such a movie, so why then aren't more such movies being made?

    I could go on and on. That then is the relevance of the list and questions it raises.
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  9. May 5, 2003 #8
    Wait a moment. Technological innovations made it possible for women to pee standing up.
    A few years ago there was a magazine which gave one with every issue. But since I'm not a women I gave it to a friend and she said it worked fine.

    Take a look here: http://www.urinalfun.com/pmate.htm

    It's in Dutch but I think the picture speaks for itself.
  10. May 5, 2003 #9
    I was actually asking about the relevance of telling us about your wife.

    Good question. It also makes their behind and breasts stick out. Why do women wear skirst and make up? The reason is that it is up to men to approach women to start relationships. It will tke a lot to change millions of years old courtship rituals.

    I cannot think of a single example of this in my albeit limited experience of work.

    Women become infertile after about 50, therefore it would serve as an evolutionary disadvantage to find such women attractive. In my opinion, men lose looks as they get older also. I consider myself much better looking than my grandad for example. I can hardly see many 40+ year olds pulling the chicks at the local club.

    Although, men lose their looks at a smaller rate than women. This is because older men are still fertile and could be in an important tribal position, thus in a good position to provide for any kids - an evolutionary advantage.

    You raise some interesting points, but a lot of these characteristics are inherent within us. You cannot force young men to lust after old women any more than you could force a gay to become straight. And no, young women do not lust after old men - bizarrly apart from sean connery, and I think that this is just due to media hype.
  11. May 5, 2003 #10
    Plus, a young woman might choose an older male partner if he has money, is a rock star, has power and/or status, etc. This might not make repoductive sense but it does make survival sense. She gets looked after.

    A young man might act in the same way towards an older woman. A number of famous woman have had much younger lovers. It's a transaction. The man basks in the glow of fame and the woman, well we know what the woman gets out of it.

    We can override a lot of the genetic stuff. We don't have to behave in a way our genes seem to dictate, and thank goodness too.
  12. May 5, 2003 #11
    Older men can still father children. Such a father would be able to provide for the children very well -it does make reproductive sense.
  13. May 6, 2003 #12
    because it takes 60 years for a man to reach the emotional maturity that women attain at 20. :wink:
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