The Mystery of the Minus Sign in Geometry, Topology, and Physics

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In summary, the conversation discusses a problem on page 400 and 405 of the book "GEOMETRY, TOPOLOGY AND PHYSICS" by MIKIO NAKAHARA (second edition). The problem involves the sign being minus in equations 10.85 and 10.108. The conversation also mentions the standard definition of ##\epsilon^{\mu \nu \rho \sigma}## and how it relates to the covariant components of the Levi-Civita (pseudo-)tensor. The conclusion is that the sign is indeed supposed to be negative due to the standard definition.
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I am reading GEOMETRY, TOPOLOGY AND PHYSICS written by MIKIO NAKAHARA (second edition). I have a problem on page 400.
I wonder why the sign is minus in Eq. (10.85).

And the same problem appears on page 405 in Eq.(10.108). I think it should be minus one half.
 

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Have you considered that with the standard definition (at least in the HEP community) ##\epsilon^{\mu \nu \rho \sigma}=\text{sign}(\mu,\nu,\rho,\sigma)## the covariant components of the Levi-Civita (pseudo-)tensor reads
$$\epsilon_{\alpha \beta \gamma \delta}=\eta_{\alpha \mu} \eta_{\beta \nu} \eta_{\gamma \rho} \eta_{\delta \sigma} \epsilon^{\mu \nu \rho \sigma}=\det \eta \epsilon^{\alpha \beta \gamma \delta}=-\epsilon^{\alpha \beta \gamma \delta},$$
because ##\eta=\mathrm{diag}(1,-1,-1,-1)## (or in the east-coast convention ##\mathrm{diag}(-1,1,1,1)##).
 
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Have you considered that with the standard definition (at least in the HEP community) ##\epsilon^{\mu \nu \rho \sigma}=\text{sign}(\mu,\nu,\rho,\sigma)## the covariant components of the Levi-Civita (pseudo-)tensor reads
$$\epsilon_{\alpha \beta \gamma \delta}=\eta_{\alpha \mu} \eta_{\beta \nu} \eta_{\gamma \rho} \eta_{\delta \sigma} \epsilon^{\mu \nu \rho \sigma}=\det \eta \epsilon^{\alpha \beta \gamma \delta}=-\epsilon^{\alpha \beta \gamma \delta},$$
because ##\eta=\mathrm{diag}(1,-1,-1,-1)## (or in the east-coast convention ##\mathrm{diag}(-1,1,1,1)##).
Thank you! I see.
 

1. Why is a minus sign important in scientific calculations?

The minus sign is important in scientific calculations because it indicates a negative value. Without it, the calculation would result in an incorrect answer. Additionally, in some equations, the placement of the minus sign can change the meaning of the equation entirely.

2. What are some common reasons for missing a minus sign in calculations?

Some common reasons for missing a minus sign in calculations include human error, using a calculator with a small or unclear display, and not paying attention to the direction or orientation of the minus sign in a complex equation.

3. How does missing a minus sign affect the accuracy of a scientific calculation?

Missing a minus sign can greatly affect the accuracy of a scientific calculation. Depending on the placement and significance of the minus sign, the resulting calculation can be off by a significant amount, leading to incorrect conclusions or results.

4. What steps can be taken to avoid missing a minus sign in calculations?

To avoid missing a minus sign in calculations, it is important to double check all calculations and use a calculator with a clear display. It can also be helpful to write out the equation or calculation in full before plugging in numbers, to ensure that all signs and operations are included.

5. Are there any tools or techniques that can automatically catch a missing minus sign in a calculation?

There are some software programs and calculators that have built-in error checking features that can catch a missing minus sign in a calculation. However, it is always best to double check calculations manually to ensure accuracy and avoid potential errors.

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