Why ideal gases are not used in refrigerator?

In summary, there is a special fluid called hydrofluorocarbon used in refrigerators to carry hot temperature out of the fridge. It has a low specific heat capacity and low liquid/gas transition point. The question is why an ideal gas cannot be used for this task. According to Borek, any real gas can be used as long as it is below critical temperature and above melting point, but for practical purposes, gases with boiling points around room temperature are preferred for safety and cost reasons. Additionally, an ideal gas cannot be used due to its lack of intermolecular forces.
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I read somewhere that a special fluid, called hydrofluorocarbon, is used in refrigerator. It carries hot temperature from the refrigerator and put it out. They says that it has a low specific heat capacity and low liquid/gas transition point (room temperature).
Now my question is why ideal gas cannot be used for such a task?
 
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First of all - have you ever seen ideal gas?

Especially gas that would be ideal around condensation point?

What is a definition of ideal gas?
 
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Nice answer Borek! I appreciate it.
But what if we assume noble gases such He and Neon or even natural air to be ideal (as we do always), can these be used in refrigerators?
 
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It all depends on the temperature range and economy. The way I see it any real gas can be used (as long as we are below critical temperature and above melting point), but for practical purposes we use gases that are safe and easy to work with. That means they must have boiling point around room temperature otherwise you need a very high pressures for condensation and it makes the refrigerator absurdly expensive.

Note, that a lot depends on the temperature of the fridge content and surroundings.

Still, ideal gas can't be used by its very definition. Ideal gas doesn't have intermolecular forces which play a very important role.
 
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thanks Borek. Now it makes more sense.
 

Why ideal gases are not used in refrigerator?

1. What is an ideal gas?
An ideal gas is a hypothetical gas that follows the ideal gas law, which describes the relationship between pressure, volume, and temperature.

2. Why are ideal gases not used in refrigerators?
Ideal gases are not used in refrigerators because they do not have strong intermolecular forces, which are necessary for heat transfer and the cooling process. Ideal gases also do not condense into a liquid state easily, making them unsuitable for refrigeration.

3. What are the disadvantages of using ideal gases in refrigerators?
The main disadvantage of using ideal gases in refrigerators is that they do not have a constant temperature throughout the cooling process. This can lead to uneven cooling and potential damage to the refrigerator's components.

4. Are there any situations where ideal gases can be used in refrigerators?
In some cases, ideal gases may be used in small, portable refrigerators or coolers for short periods of time. However, they are not suitable for larger refrigerators that are used on a daily basis.

5. What types of gases are commonly used in refrigerators?
The most commonly used gases in refrigerators are hydrofluorocarbons (HFCs), such as R-134a, and hydrochlorofluorocarbons (HCFCs), such as R-22. These gases have strong intermolecular forces and can easily condense into a liquid state, making them ideal for refrigeration.

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