Why is there no r^2 term in the formula for the swing weight of a golfclub?

In summary, the Swing Weight of a golfclub is based on the mass (in grams) and the distance (in inches) from the top of the shaft to the center of mass of the club.
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The Swing Weight of a golfclub = m * (r - 14)
m = mass of the club in grams
r = distance from the top of the shaft to the center of mass of the club in inches
6050 equals the swing weight D-0
But the formula for the angular acceleration of any object spinning around an axis is:
ωdot = τ / I
In the case of a thin rod spinning around one of it's endpoints this will be:
ωdot = 3 * τ / (m * r2)

m, and r are now in SI units though. (kg and meters)

But in the formula for swing weight there is no r2 only an r. Why is this?
 
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Why are you comparing swing ‘weight’ with angular acceleration? They are not the same, and their units are not the same.
 
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It's not clear that the formula you show has a rigorous foundation in physics. It may just be an informal unit of measurement with which people identify clubs.
 
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The linear acceleration of the club head would be related to the torque at the wrists by something similar to this "swing weight".
 
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It's not clear that the formula you show has a rigorous foundation in physics. It may just be an informal unit of measurement with which people identify clubs.
Maybe not in physics but millions of golfers rely on it. It's supposed to describe how hard it is to swing a golfclub. How hard it is to perform angular acceleration.
 
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Lars278 said:
Maybe not in physics but millions of golfers rely on it. It's supposed to describe how hard it is to swing a golfclub. How hard it is to perform angular acceleration.
I can find no reference which defines it in terms of angular acceleration for a fixed torque. Most of what I can Google up is very dumbed down and talks about feel. The references which speak of measurement or definitions allude to equipment which does a static balance (proportional to r, not r squared).

For instance:
  • A club's weight distribution relative to a fixed fulcrum point, typically 14 inches from the butt (grip end) of the club. Swingweight is measured in alpha-numeric units such as D-1, D-2. The letters used are A through G, with numerals from 0-9 (up to 10 for G).
    The higher a club’s letter-number unit, the closer its balance point is to the head, and the heavier it will feel when swung. The lightest possible swingweight is A-0; the heaviest is G-10. For men, the standard swingweights are D-0 and D-1; for women, C-5 to C-7.
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It is really not a dynamic measurement as the name implies but rather a simple balance system what in mechanics is called First Moments. This is where the distance of the weight from the fulcrum multiplied by the weight itself must be the same on both sides for the beam to balance.
 
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Lars278 said:
Maybe not in physics but millions of golfers rely on it. It's supposed to describe how hard it is to swing a golfclub. How hard it is to perform angular acceleration.
That makes sense. And it fits in with @jbriggs444 idea that it is related to the force needed to accelerate the swing rotation the desired amount. In that case, it can be related to a formal physics derivation.
 

1. Why is there no r^2 term in the formula for the swing weight of a golf club?

The swing weight of a golf club is a measure of its overall weight distribution and how it feels when swinging. It is calculated by taking into account the club's weight, length, and balance point. The r^2 term, which represents the distance from the balance point to the grip, is not included in the formula because it is already accounted for in the club's length.

2. Does the absence of the r^2 term affect the accuracy of the swing weight calculation?

No, the absence of the r^2 term does not affect the accuracy of the swing weight calculation. The formula has been developed and refined over many years by experts in the golf industry and has been proven to be an accurate measure of a club's swing weight.

3. Are there any other factors that affect the swing weight of a golf club?

Yes, there are other factors that can affect the swing weight of a golf club, such as the type and weight of the grip, the material and design of the club head, and the presence of any additional weights or inserts in the club.

4. How does swing weight affect a golfer's performance?

The swing weight of a golf club can affect a golfer's performance in several ways. If the swing weight is too light, the golfer may have difficulty controlling the club and generating power. On the other hand, if the swing weight is too heavy, it may require more effort to swing the club, leading to fatigue and a loss of control. Finding the right swing weight for an individual golfer can help improve their performance and consistency on the course.

5. Can the swing weight of a golf club be adjusted?

Yes, the swing weight of a golf club can be adjusted by adding or removing weight from different parts of the club, such as the head or grip. This can be done by a professional club fitter or by using specialized tools designed for adjusting swing weight. However, it is important to note that any modifications to a club's swing weight may also affect its other characteristics, such as its balance and feel, so it should be done carefully and with expert guidance.

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