a little history quiz, who said this? With malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in... =============== I think now is a bad time to be making a stink about how much research money has been (possibly mis-)spent on string. Rather than getting distracted we would do better to concentrate attention on where QG progress is being made. for example, check out this video + dynamite 5-page paper by Krasnov http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/0611182 Renormalizable Non-Metric Quantum Gravity? http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/en/Scientific/Seminars/PIRSA/ [Broken] to get video, type in the PIRSA number: 06110041 Krasnov (orig. from Kiev, Ukraine; PhD 1999 Penn State adv. Ashtekar) is one of the new generation QG. Lee Smolin and Laurent Freidel were all over this video with questions, rarely heard the two of them so stirred up in a seminar talk. When ice is breaking on the river, a churl complains how long winter lasted. It's poor timing.