Work in a PV Curve: Is the Work Done 0?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of work done in a closed cycle system, specifically in the context of thermodynamics. The passage in a textbook states that the work done is the area enclosed by the curve on a Pressure-Volume graph, but a question is raised about the possibility of the work being 0 in a closed cycle. The response clarifies that a closed cycle can still do work if the work done during one part of the cycle is significantly larger than the work done in the opposite direction. This requires the system to be under different loads during different parts of the cycle.
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Hey all,

In one of my textbooks, there is a passage in the thermodynamics section that states that:

For a closed cycle where the system returns to its initial state, the work done is the area enclosed by the curve (when looking at a Pressure-Volume graph).

Shouldn't the work done by this process be a total of 0 instead?

Thanks in advance.
 
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Not necessarily. A closed cycle can do work. Suppose it cycles between two states. If the work done getting from state 1 to state 2 is much larger than the work done (with the opposite sign of course) from state 2 back to state 1, the cycle will do net work. Note that this does require the system to be under a different load during different parts of the cycle. This changing load is what allows the system to end at the same state that it started while still doing work.
 

1. What is a PV curve?

A PV curve, or pressure-volume curve, is a graphical representation of the relationship between the pressure and volume of a gas or fluid. It is commonly used in thermodynamics and fluid mechanics to analyze the work done by a system.

2. How is work done calculated in a PV curve?

Work done in a PV curve is calculated by finding the area under the curve. This area represents the energy transferred to or from the system as it undergoes a change in volume. If the area is positive, work is done on the system, and if it is negative, work is done by the system.

3. Is the work done always 0 in a PV curve?

No, the work done in a PV curve is not always 0. It depends on the specific shape of the curve and the process being analyzed. If the curve is a straight line, the work done will be 0. However, if the curve is curved, the work done will not be 0.

4. What does it mean if the work done is 0 in a PV curve?

If the work done is 0 in a PV curve, it means that there is no energy transfer between the system and its surroundings. This could occur if the process being analyzed is isothermal, meaning there is no change in temperature, or if the system is in equilibrium.

5. How is a PV curve used in real-world applications?

PV curves are used in various real-world applications, such as analyzing the performance of heat engines, studying gas behavior in engines and turbines, and designing refrigeration systems. They are also used in the study of atmospheric processes and weather patterns.

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