Solving the Working Gas Problem | pv = nRt

In summary, the conversation is discussing a problem involving a gas undergoing an isobaric process where the pressure is constant. The question asks about the work being done, with one person suggesting the answer is zero because no work is being done, while another argues that the answer is not zero and asks for clarification on the problem. The conversation ends with a request for the original source of the problem and someone else stating that the answer is not A and explaining the concept of work in an isobaric process.
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littlejon
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations



pv = nRt

The Attempt at a Solution


The answer is zero because it does not move since no work is being done.
 
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  • #2
Doesn't the volume change?
 
  • #3
This is pretty disturbing. Firstly, the problem says "this process is8000 J.". Secondly, no, the answer is not zero. I am quite confident about that.
 
  • #4
Okay since we know it not zero then if 8000 work is being done than is the problem reiterating the work that was done so A?
 
  • #5
Show us your work.

From where did you get this problem (please tell me)? I don't want to buy the book by accident.
 
  • #6
littlejon said:
Okay since we know it not zero then if 8000 work is being done than is the problem reiterating the work that was done so A?
No, it's not A. How is work defined when gas expands? In this case the process is isobaric meaning pressure is constant.
 

1. What is the working gas problem and why is it important to solve?

The working gas problem refers to the challenge of efficiently storing and utilizing gas, such as natural gas or propane, in industrial and commercial settings. It is important to solve because gas is a valuable energy source, and finding ways to optimize its storage and usage can lead to cost savings and reduced environmental impact.

2. What does "pv = nRt" represent in the context of solving the working gas problem?

"pv = nRt" is the ideal gas law, which relates the pressure, volume, temperature, and number of moles of a gas. In the context of solving the working gas problem, this equation can be used to calculate the necessary parameters for efficient gas storage and usage.

3. How can the ideal gas law be applied to solve the working gas problem?

The ideal gas law can be applied to solve the working gas problem by using it to determine the optimal pressure and temperature for storing gas in a given volume. This can help to maximize the amount of gas that can be stored and minimize the energy required for compression.

4. What are some potential solutions for the working gas problem?

Potential solutions for the working gas problem include using underground caverns or depleted gas fields for storage, implementing advanced compression and cooling techniques, and utilizing renewable energy sources to power gas storage and usage.

5. What are some challenges in solving the working gas problem?

Some challenges in solving the working gas problem include finding cost-effective and sustainable solutions, ensuring the safety and integrity of gas storage facilities, and accounting for fluctuations in gas demand and availability. Additionally, there may be technical and logistical barriers to implementing new technologies and infrastructure for gas storage and usage.

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